I think it's a sad state of affairs when a former actor/body builder can one up most of the politicians in the country. Am I right?
Is it just me or is Arnold better than most real politicians?
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Clue -- There is no law stating that an actor or a body builder can't be an intelligent human being.
Arnold is a mixed bag, and he's had his share of politicianitis. He promised he wouldn't take contributions from special interests because he was independently wealthy, but in his first two years in office, he took more money from special interests than Gray Davis received in his entire time in office.
The same deal with Ventura happened here in MN. I think he did a really good job - but they have a bad side. While they do a good job, they're not good politicians. And by that I mean they don't know how to spin things, pander to different groups, flip flop, etc.
Not that that's a bad thing in itself, in fact, it's a great thing. But when you remember that 50% of people have an IQ lower than 100...well, you need to be a good 'politician' to stay in office.
Now, if we can just get someone like that in the White House, we'll be golden.
Edit: I know nothing about how good Ahnold is, just offering a comparison.
Not that that's a bad thing in itself, in fact, it's a great thing. But when you remember that 50% of people have an IQ lower than 100...well, you need to be a good 'politician' to stay in office.
Now, if we can just get someone like that in the White House, we'll be golden.
Edit: I know nothing about how good Ahnold is, just offering a comparison.
Originally posted by: Harvey
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Clue -- There is no law stating that an actor or a body builder can't be an intelligent human being.
Arnold is a mixed bag, and he's had his share of politicianitis. He promised he wouldn't take contributions from special interests because he was independently wealthy, but in his first two years in office, he took more money from special interests than Gray Davis received in his entire time in office.
He's got to get his protein powder from somewhere doesn't he?
Were you by chance hitting the crack pipe while Ventura was in office? Cause I was there, and he most certainly did not do a "really good job". Or even an acceptable job. Instead, what he gave us was a lot of noise without any real policy to back it up, he was worse than a politician, he was an outsider PLAYING a politician. Arnold started out the same way (calling Democrats, "girlie men", for example), but whatever experience he lacked, he seemed to quickly pick up on how to do things. He's an outsider in the sense that he's not a traditional member of the Republican party, or a traditional Democrat either for that matter, but politics is like any other profession...it requires special knowledge and skills to do a good job. Ventura just didn't have that, he was much better suited to being a commentator for the XFL (which, if I remember, he spent way more time doing than actually running the state).
I've said it before but Arnold gets more abuse than he deserves. He's moderate and practical and those are some reasons why he is fairly popular (aside from the fact people would probably vote for Lindsay Lohan if they could.)
The only reason he didn't get more done is because he didn't have a political party in the house and senate. While I don't agree with some of the things he wanted, overall he did exactly what a politician *should* do. He cut taxes (well, gave them back) during a surplus that the politicians would have otherwise wasted, which 90% of people just went and spent.
He was also for light rail and blah blah. Either way, he wasn't some nasty republican or democrat. He was just a governor-the way it should be.
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Schwarzenegger is a very complex human being.
He is ruthless - his rivals can attest to it - and he's also dedicated. His ambition is the engine that pushes him to do amazing things.
In private life, he is not a pleasant man; he's been known to snub and hurt close friends of his, sometimes by sheer negligence, sometimes because of his interests dictated it. He is capable of stepping on dead bodies in order to achieve what he wants.
Insofar as his duties as a governor, he's been more successful than not, and from the outside he seems to be doing a good job.
In many ways, I compare him to Sting: a very talented artist, while a nasty person in private life.
He is ruthless - his rivals can attest to it - and he's also dedicated. His ambition is the engine that pushes him to do amazing things.
In private life, he is not a pleasant man; he's been known to snub and hurt close friends of his, sometimes by sheer negligence, sometimes because of his interests dictated it. He is capable of stepping on dead bodies in order to achieve what he wants.
Insofar as his duties as a governor, he's been more successful than not, and from the outside he seems to be doing a good job.
In many ways, I compare him to Sting: a very talented artist, while a nasty person in private life.
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I, of course course know little of california's politics, but since its a country within my country I certain hear more then I do about say, nebraska. He seems pretty good overall. When he comes up with a stupid idea that everyone hates, he backs off it, or at least thats the way it seems. I will agree he has a ruthless way about him, although I view it more an sheer ambition. Is he an asshole? I would have to say, yes, the man is probably an asshole. But even the nicest politicians are just assholes that just hide it well. And I sort of admire how he leverages his own advantages and does so with no shame at all. His campaign seemed like "Yeah, thats me...take it over leave it!"
Plus, he's Arnold. Did you see Terminator? That was a great movie.
Plus, he's Arnold. Did you see Terminator? That was a great movie.
He has said he would like to see a Constutional Amendment allowing him to be President.
How come the Republicans didn't push the Ammendment through when they had total control for six years???
How come the Republicans didn't push the Ammendment through when they had total control for six years???
No, Arnold is not better than most politicians. The difference is, being from Hollywood, he knows how to stage a production better than your typical politician.
Everyone wanted to vote for the Terminator.
Policy wise, he is a mixed bag. His major achievement has been to paper over the debt, and push it off into bond measures, which will have to be paid back with interest in the future. Typical Republican playbook, spend now, pay later.
Everyone wanted to vote for the Terminator.
Policy wise, he is a mixed bag. His major achievement has been to paper over the debt, and push it off into bond measures, which will have to be paid back with interest in the future. Typical Republican playbook, spend now, pay later.
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