is it just me, or does it seem like maybe our two campaigns in the middle east...

zanejohnson

Diamond Member
Nov 29, 2002
7,054
17
81
may be all of because of israeli pressure? and could ultimately be, completely, tracked back to some sort of israeli jewish agenda? (that we, may or may not be, on the fence as a nation on now if it came down to it?)
 

zanejohnson

Diamond Member
Nov 29, 2002
7,054
17
81
please elaborate...

Are you purposely being vague...or are you trolling??

i'm not trolling, i just somehow, have a feeling a lot of shit is about to come out..

just in how i see the media going, how i see media from the middle east going (yes i watch it), how i see posts on forums like this going.
 

badb0y

Diamond Member
Feb 22, 2010
4,015
30
91
What the fuck are you talking about OP, we went into Afghanistan because of the 9/11 attacks and we went into Iraq because Saddam tried to kill Bush's father. Get your facts straight.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
33,986
3,321
126
may be all of because of israeli pressure? and could ultimately be, completely, tracked back to some sort of israeli jewish agenda? (that we, may or may not be, on the fence as a nation on now if it came down to it?)
so tell me how you are not being vague???
Describe the events that you claim brought about Jewish pressure......
Describe what the Jewish Agenda is.......

So YES you are being uber vague and I would say you are trolling.

Because you cannot answer in specifics none of the above^^^^^^
 

Juror No. 8

Banned
Sep 25, 2012
1,108
0
0
What the fuck are you talking about OP, we went into Afghanistan because of the 9/11 attacks and we went into Iraq because Saddam tried to kill Bush's father. Get your facts straight.

You mean, those were the reasons you were given by the U.S. government, but not necessarily the real reasons.

For all you know, the U.S. government was the chief architect and sponsor of the 9/11 attacks and the Iraq war was all about expanding U.S. hegemony and strategic control of the Middle East.
 

Juror No. 8

Banned
Sep 25, 2012
1,108
0
0
may be all of because of israeli pressure? and could ultimately be, completely, tracked back to some sort of israeli jewish agenda? (that we, may or may not be, on the fence as a nation on now if it came down to it?)

AIPAC pretty much runs BrainWashington D.C. So yes, it's very likely that our Zionist-controlled foreign policy has much to do with Israeli interests.

As for the grand design? That's anybody's guess.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
33,986
3,321
126
You mean, those were the reasons you were given by the U.S. government, but not necessarily the real reasons.

For all you know, the U.S. government was the chief architect and sponsor of the 9/11 attacks and the Iraq war was all about expanding U.S. hegemony and strategic control of the Middle East.

yeah and I have some tin foil hats to sell you......
For all we know you are a contrarian.
You probably also believe that it was British Commandos who assassinated Bugs Bunny...
 

Juror No. 8

Banned
Sep 25, 2012
1,108
0
0
yeah and I have some tin foil hats to sell you......
For all we know you are a contrarian.
You probably also believe that it was British Commandos who assassinated Bugs Bunny...

LOL. So you're one of those people who actually believes the U.S. government told the truth about 9/11?

What a fucking idiot. I honestly didn't think there were still people like you left.
 

zanejohnson

Diamond Member
Nov 29, 2002
7,054
17
81
i'm just sayin... i'm not some crazy loon, but man, for some reason, i just can't help but feel like something doesn't add up right..
 

zanejohnson

Diamond Member
Nov 29, 2002
7,054
17
81
LOL. So you're one of those people who actually believes the U.S. government told the truth about 9/11?

What a fucking idiot. I honestly didn't think there were still people like you left.

and i agree, 911 was obviously either a false flag to hurry up what we did in iraq, or something else..

you can't sit here and tell me, "TERRISTS" did it..might as well say the spaghetti monster did it..

i've never seen a "TERRIST" in my life...

and i know quite a few arab folk..
 

iGas

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2009
6,240
1
0
What the fuck are you talking about OP, we went into Afghanistan because of the 9/11 attacks and we went into Iraq because Saddam tried to kill Bush's father. Get your facts straight.
The US went into Afganishtan is perhaps due to oil pipelines. No one go into Wars with out a contingency plan, hence the US big oil/government had planed the invasion/regime change of Afghanistan years prior to 9/11.

The US went into Iraq on the false pretence of WMD, and again it was all about oil. First Iraq War is was all about oil, and same as the second war.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74aStyP-dL0
 
Last edited:

bononos

Diamond Member
Aug 21, 2011
3,937
190
106
What the fuck are you talking about OP, we went into Afghanistan because of the 9/11 attacks and we went into Iraq because Saddam tried to kill Bush's father. Get your facts straight.

Saddam Hussein was also responsible for the 911 attack and Iraq was going to attack the US with WMD according to Fox News at least.
 

zanejohnson

Diamond Member
Nov 29, 2002
7,054
17
81
ok, lets' regroup.

things we know are true:

911 was a false flag (for what?)

fox news is propoganda (as well as cnn, al jazeera, i can see it clearly in them, some may not be able to) (msnbc, that's a left wing democratic channel, doesn't count as propoganda..they're too obvious)

there is obviously a huge muslim vs jew war going on behind the scenes (but we freakin read about that in the bible)
 

piasabird

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
17,168
60
91
If the USA would just quit supplying terrorists with weapons things might be better. So where are all these Hamas terrorists getting the money to buy rockets?
Instead of chasing down terrorists we need to start chasing after the people who are buying and shipping the weapons.
 

zanejohnson

Diamond Member
Nov 29, 2002
7,054
17
81
If the USA would just quit supplying terrorists with weapons things might be better. So where are all these Hamas terrorists getting the money to buy rockets?
Instead of chasing down terrorists we need to start chasing after the people who are buying and shipping the weapons.

reminds me of "lord of war"
 

wuliheron

Diamond Member
Feb 8, 2011
3,536
0
0
It's all part of the insidious alien anal probe mind control agenda. First 9/11 so they could establish the TSA and Homeland Security and do more anal probes, then Obamacare so they could go national, and next comes Armageddon so they can take their x-per-e-ments worldwide.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
33,986
3,321
126
It's all part of the insidious alien anal probe mind control agenda. First 9/11 so they could establish the TSA and Homeland Security and do more anal probes, then Obamacare so they could go national, and next comes Armageddon so they can take their x-per-e-ments worldwide.
Seems to that by the looks of things the Alien Anal probe got stock in zanejohnson and is controlling what mind he has left...
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
33,986
3,321
126
LOL. So you're one of those people who actually believes the U.S. government told the truth about 9/11?

What a fucking idiot. I honestly didn't think there were still people like you left.

I see the insidious alien anal probe mind control device has gotten to you...sad....really sad....
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,543
651
126
LOL. So you're one of those people who actually believes the U.S. government told the truth about 9/11?

What a fucking idiot. I honestly didn't think there were still people like you left.

And after all these years, still not a shred of proof that the US govt didn't tell the truth about 9/11. I still can't believe there are conspiracy nutjobs.
 

zanejohnson

Diamond Member
Nov 29, 2002
7,054
17
81
And after all these years, still not a shred of proof that the US govt didn't tell the truth about 9/11. I still can't believe there are conspiracy nutjobs.

c'mon, lets be realistic here....

every piece of evidence adds up to.. no fucking way planes hit those towers.
 

Lemon law

Lifer
Nov 6, 2005
20,984
3
0
If the USA would just quit supplying terrorists with weapons things might be better. So where are all these Hamas terrorists getting the money to buy rockets?
Instead of chasing down terrorists we need to start chasing after the people who are buying and shipping the weapons.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you are onto something piasabird, as the USA buys all that lovely oil from the Arab world, and then the Arabs take that US money to funds mid-east terrorists who quite understandable don't like Israeli terrorism. And then the USA funds more Israeli terrorism which inspires Arabs to fund even more anti-Israeli terrorism. While the Israelis take the the US money and use it to alienate the Arabs even more.

As it never occurs to any of us in the USA, if we actually had a fair and or even handed rational US policy the USA would be better off in trying to reduce the causes of terrorism in the first place. But no, perish that thought, when there is so much money to be made by a few rich arms dealers, while Uncle Sucker and the US tax payers lose our asses in a long succession of losing quagmires.