Is it illegal to download tv shows via p2p software?

[oog]

I'm just curious, and I don't know where is the best place to find a definitive answer.

 

[iamme]

yes. they're copyrighted.

 

[jonmullen]

how is it different than recording it from T.V. aslong you are not resaleing it or using it for commerical use?

 

[Chaotic42]

Yes, on the Family Guy DVD commentary they were talking about it. They didn't say specifically why it's illegal, but it is.

 

[Pepsi90919]

UH YEAH?

 

[oog]

Thanks for the quick replies. I'll assume it is download and just record my own videos.

 

[rh71]

I heard from somewhere (can't recall where) that if the show has been off syndication for at least 1 year, it's perfectly fine...

Truth ?

 

[chin311]

im sure it is...but i dont get how its diff. than tiv0 or VHS recording ...

 

[kaizersose]

when you buy a VHS tape, a portion of it goes to pay for the usage of copyrighted material. the same was true for cassete tapes. thats why those recordable medias are so expensive. TIVO worked extensively with the trade groups to make sure that recorded shows stay on the tivo and thats why it is so tough to hack a TIVO.

 

[hopeless879]

Originally posted by: kaizersose
when you buy a VHS tape, a portion of it goes to pay for the usage of copyrighted material. the same was true for cassete tapes. thats why those recordable medias are so expensive. TIVO worked extensively with the trade groups to make sure that recorded shows stay on the tivo and thats why it is so tough to hack a TIVO.

So if the hard drive industry started paying all the media companies some extra money, and then raising the price of HDD's. Would it then be legal to download mp3s, movies, and tv shows? Theorretically?

 

[CubicZirconia]

Originally posted by: hopeless879

Originally posted by: kaizersose
when you buy a VHS tape, a portion of it goes to pay for the usage of copyrighted material. the same was true for cassete tapes. thats why those recordable medias are so expensive. TIVO worked extensively with the trade groups to make sure that recorded shows stay on the tivo and thats why it is so tough to hack a TIVO.

So if the hard drive industry started paying all the media companies some extra money, and then raising the price of HDD's. Would it then be legal to download mp3s, movies, and tv shows? Theorretically?

The hdd prices would have to skyrocket to make everyone happy. There would be so many people wanting a cut it wouldn't even be worth it.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: kaizersose
when you buy a VHS tape, a portion of it goes to pay for the usage of copyrighted material. the same was true for cassete tapes. thats why those recordable medias are so expensive. TIVO worked extensively with the trade groups to make sure that recorded shows stay on the tivo and thats why it is so tough to hack a TIVO.

I don't believe this for a second.

Who does the money go to exactly? Do they split the $.50 or $1 among EVERY company that has copyrighted materials broadcasting on TV?

 

[stonecold3169]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: kaizersose
when you buy a VHS tape, a portion of it goes to pay for the usage of copyrighted material. the same was true for cassete tapes. thats why those recordable medias are so expensive. TIVO worked extensively with the trade groups to make sure that recorded shows stay on the tivo and thats why it is so tough to hack a TIVO.

I don't believe this for a second.

Who does the money go to exactly? Do they split the $.50 or $1 among EVERY company that has copyrighted materials broadcasting on TV?

I'd believe it. I don't know specifics, but here in the US "music" cds are more expensive because they pay royalties to the music industry, which is why settop boxes typically only take music discs, which have a special watermark.

It makes sense that the same would hold true with the tape people. I believe in Canada all cds and dvds have a special tax built into them, which is why media is so much more expensive there.

As for why they don't factor that into hdd prices, lets say the fee on a video tape is $0.25. Lets say you can fit 3 30 minute shows on it. $0.25 divided by 3 is ~8 cents a show. Now look at how many shows, encoded at say 640x480 you can fit onto a 120gb hard drive. We're talking a ton of extra going into the prices. However, to me it would be worth it. Pick up a 120gb hard drive for $500 with a contract to download whatever the hell I wanted... the music industry gets say, ~$400 in royalties straight up, and I get unlimited music. Seems fair to me.

 

[dighn]

i'm sure it's illegal but who cares