Is it illegal to cross a street when the hand is red?

Stojakapimp

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Whenever I'm at an intersection, I hate to push the crosswalk button because it makes all the cars wait for so long. So I'll usually just cross the street at the right time even the crosswalk light will still have the giant red hand. Technically it isn't jaywalking because I'm still in the crosswalk, but does anyone know if you can legally only cross if the green guy is showing?
 

AsianriceX

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Entering crosswalk with "WALK" = Legal
Entering crosswalk with blinking "DON'T WALK" = Illegal
Entering crosswalk with solid "DON'T WALK" = Illegal

Entering crosswalk with "WALK" then being in crosswalk when it turns to blinking "DON'T WALK" = Get your slow ass out of the intersection NOW!
 

lobbyone

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Originally posted by: AsianriceX
Entering crosswalk with "WALK" = Legal
Entering crosswalk with blinking "DON'T WALK" = Illegal
Entering crosswalk with solid "DON'T WALK" = Illegal

Entering crosswalk with "WALK" then being in crosswalk when it turns to blinking "DON'T WALK" = Get your slow ass out of the intersection NOW!

 

Syringer

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Is it legal to drive through a red light? :confused:

Although in some European countries the concept of jaywalking does not even exist, and you can cross at any time as long as it's safe.
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
you are going to get hurt

It sounds like OP is crossing when the light would normally turn white/go, they are just not pressing the button and making the sign change colors.

So they are crossing in front of stopped traffic, and should be safe.
 

CollectiveUnconscious

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Originally posted by: AsianriceX
Entering crosswalk with "WALK" = Legal
Entering crosswalk with blinking "DON'T WALK" = Illegal
Entering crosswalk with solid "DON'T WALK" = Illegal

Entering crosswalk with "WALK" then being in crosswalk when it turns to blinking "DON'T WALK" = Get your slow ass out of the intersection NOW!

Interesting. In Knoxville, most crosswalks show the WALK sign for less than 2 seconds, then blink the red hand sign for 30 seconds, then turn to a solid hand. It wouldn't make much sense if you were only allowed to start walking during those 2 seconds.
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: FoBoT
you are going to get hurt

It sounds like OP is crossing when the light would normally turn white/go, they are just not pressing the button and making the sign change colors.

So they are crossing in front of stopped traffic, and should be safe.

That depends on the sophistication of the crosswalk. The behavior of the traffic lights may change depending upon whether or not the walk button has been pushed to better facilitate pedestrians.
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Originally posted by: AsianriceX
Entering crosswalk with "WALK" = Legal
Entering crosswalk with blinking "DON'T WALK" = Illegal
Entering crosswalk with solid "DON'T WALK" = Illegal

Entering crosswalk with "WALK" then being in crosswalk when it turns to blinking "DON'T WALK" = Get your slow ass out of the intersection NOW!

Interesting. In Knoxville, most crosswalks show the WALK sign for less than 2 seconds, then blink the red hand sign for 30 seconds, then turn to a solid hand. It wouldn't make much sense if you were only allowed to start walking during those 2 seconds.

Yes it does. The hand starts blinking because at that point, the average person walking at an average speed will not make it through on time if they start walking then.

If they start when they're supposed to, then they'll be safe.
 

ebaycj

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Why do people ask questions like this as if they are uniform on a national/international level?

People, listen up: ALMOST ALL NON-FELONIES ARE GOVERNED BY YOUR STATE / LOCAL LAWS.
 

CollectiveUnconscious

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Originally posted by: AsianriceX
Entering crosswalk with "WALK" = Legal
Entering crosswalk with blinking "DON'T WALK" = Illegal
Entering crosswalk with solid "DON'T WALK" = Illegal

Entering crosswalk with "WALK" then being in crosswalk when it turns to blinking "DON'T WALK" = Get your slow ass out of the intersection NOW!

Interesting. In Knoxville, most crosswalks show the WALK sign for less than 2 seconds, then blink the red hand sign for 30 seconds, then turn to a solid hand. It wouldn't make much sense if you were only allowed to start walking during those 2 seconds.

Yes it does. The hand starts blinking because at that point, the average person walking at an average speed will not make it through on time if they start walking then.

If they start when they're supposed to, then they'll be safe.

I can make it across the street, walking at a normal pace, in ~10 seconds.
 

funboy6942

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Green guy, red hand WTF? What ever happened to the words walk (in white) and don't walk (in red)?

And OP you can get a ticket for being in the intersection on a red hand :)P red hand, for some reason I think dirty), just push the damn button and make the people in the cars wait, screw them, you have the right of way and right to push the button.
 

chambersc

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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Whenever I'm at an intersection, I hate to push the crosswalk button because it makes all the cars wait for so long. So I'll usually just cross the street at the right time even the crosswalk light will still have the giant red hand. Technically it isn't jaywalking because I'm still in the crosswalk, but does anyone know if you can legally only cross if the green guy is showing?

Ugh...
 

Jeff7

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This is why I don't like walking in cities. There are laws I'd never known about. I think I was somewhere around age 20 before I learned what "jaywalking" meant. The rural road near where I lived got maybe 50 cars a day travelling over it, and I never had to cross it.

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

That depends on the sophistication of the crosswalk. The behavior of the traffic lights may change depending upon whether or not the walk button has been pushed to better facilitate pedestrians.
Definitely. Some of them are very good, complete with not only timers, but also the inductive sensors under the road to determine where cars are. Others include extra sensors to determine how backed up traffic is getting so as to know how to assign priority. And they may also include the sense to know that if the left turn signal is on, it might not be a good idea to tell the pedestrians that it's ok to cross. Others might not be so intelligent.
 

AsianriceX

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
This is why I don't like walking in cities. There are laws I'd never known about. I think I was somewhere around age 20 before I learned what "jaywalking" meant. The rural road near where I lived got maybe 50 cars a day travelling over it, and I never had to cross it.

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

That depends on the sophistication of the crosswalk. The behavior of the traffic lights may change depending upon whether or not the walk button has been pushed to better facilitate pedestrians.
Definitely. Some of them are very good, complete with not only timers, but also the inductive sensors under the road to determine where cars are. Others include extra sensors to determine how backed up traffic is getting so as to know how to assign priority. And they may also include the sense to know that if the left turn signal is on, it might not be a good idea to tell the pedestrians that it's ok to cross. Others might not be so intelligent.

On that note, at one intersection in campustown, one of the timers was way off. All of the other timers were showing 20 second limits where the screwed up one started at 40 seconds. This would then show the walk signal while a green light was given to cross-traffic.

It was quite a situation considering the intersection was right next to a couple of busy college bars. Luckily that was fixed quickly by some city workers.

I have to say though, I do like the timers since I can easily prepare for a yellow light when driving.
 

archiloco

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just crossed street on big red hand, with cop looking at me entire way, i guess he had better things to do, he was walking not in a police cruiser, he was taking care of some businesses that have had some trouble lately. i puckered a bit after remembering this thread.
 

EGGO

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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Whenever I'm at an intersection, I hate to push the crosswalk button because it makes all the cars wait for so long.

You mean that button actually works with you?