Is it good to just stop eating meat and dairy products to lose wieght?

BAMAVOO

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Guy at work did it and lost 50lbs in like 6 months..No working out or exercising either?
 

UDT89

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id assume its ok, i dont think its that unhealthy.


But how can you pass up a nice skirt steak?
 

PsychoAndy

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Originally posted by: UDT89
id assume its ok, i dont think its that unhealthy.


But how can you pass up a nice skirt steak?

Easy. By going for the porterhouse or perhaps some tenderloin. :D

-PAB
 

ElFenix

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eat a lot of fiber first and you can eat all the steak and cheese you want.
 

edjam

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Cut down on fat and 'unhealthy stuff' like fast food to lose weight, but if you exercie (cardio vascular and weights combo workes well for me) you will lose weight miles quicker.
 

pyonir

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my roommate's sister became a vegitarian and she gained weight. Make sure you watch carbs if you decide to do it.
 

Jfur

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If you overeat *anything* you can get fat. A balanced and consistent diet over the long term is the most important. As tweakmm mentions, carefully research whatever you plan to do. A vegetarian diet can have more than adequate protein.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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eat a lot of fiber first and you can eat all the steak and cheese you want.

Nope, you can't consume enough fiber to prevent the absorption of dietary cholesterol and fats, but it certainly helps. Now Xenical (orlistat) will definitely do the trick but you wind up with . . .
Also known as POOP WARS
I hope you like diarrhea.

If you make a long term switch to leaner cuts of meat and lowfat to nonfat dairy, you will achieve most of benefits of lowfat, low cholesterol eating without significant sacrifice. I assume meat meant beef but chicken needs to be lean as well. It's a little confusing but you want FATTY fish (cod, mackerel, salmon . . . anything coldwater).
 

Peetoeng

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
If you make a long term switch to leaner cuts of meat and lowfat to nonfat dairy, you will achieve most of benefits of lowfat, low cholesterol eating without significant sacrifice. I assume meat meant beef but chicken needs to be lean as well. It's a little confusing but you want FATTY fish (cod, mackerel, salmon . . . anything coldwater).

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Get high quality protein (lean meat) and cut down on carb. Fish contains omega-3 fatty acid, which would increase your good cholesterol level.

If you can give up meat altogether, get an alternative source of protein (soybeans, walnuts, etc).
 

rahvin

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What ethnicity do you derive from?

The reason I ask is that historically certain ethnic groups ate certain foods and their bodies may be more adjusted to a certain type of diet. For example those who hail from scandanvian countries may be better off eating lots of meat and cheese and fewer carbs. Those that hail from southern europe may be better of with less meat and cheese and more carbs. But what do I know. :)
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: rahvin
What ethnicity do you derive from?

The reason I ask is that historically certain ethnic groups ate certain foods and their bodies may be more adjusted to a certain type of diet. For example those who hail from scandanvian countries may be better off eating lots of meat and cheese and fewer carbs. Those that hail from southern europe may be better of with less meat and cheese and more carbs. But what do I know. :)

That's pretty goofy rahvin...

the biological differences of "race" are miniscule at best.... certainly not as specific as to determine what diet would be best....
 

fyleow

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Fill yourself with lots of protein and fat but avoid carbs and sugars like the plague. That means eating bacon and eggs for breakfast, steak for lunch and dinner. No joke but you must avoid carbs and sugar. It's the atkins diet, dateline did a story on it not too long ago.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
eat a lot of fiber first and you can eat all the steak and cheese you want.

Nope, you can't consume enough fiber to prevent the absorption of dietary cholesterol and fats, but it certainly helps. Now Xenical (orlistat) will definitely do the trick but you wind up with . . .
Also known as POOP WARS
I hope you like diarrhea.

If you make a long term switch to leaner cuts of meat and lowfat to nonfat dairy, you will achieve most of benefits of lowfat, low cholesterol eating without significant sacrifice. I assume meat meant beef but chicken needs to be lean as well. It's a little confusing but you want FATTY fish (cod, mackerel, salmon . . . anything coldwater).

actually i was planning on filling up on fiber so much that you could hardly eat anything else...
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rahvin
What ethnicity do you derive from?

The reason I ask is that historically certain ethnic groups ate certain foods and their bodies may be more adjusted to a certain type of diet. For example those who hail from scandanvian countries may be better off eating lots of meat and cheese and fewer carbs. Those that hail from southern europe may be better of with less meat and cheese and more carbs. But what do I know. :)

That's pretty goofy rahvin...

the biological differences of "race" are miniscule at best.... certainly not as specific as to determine what diet would be best....

There is an actual research study into this, the evidence did in fact point to ethnic origin contributing to dietary differences affecting different ethnic groups differently. Let me give you an example, polynessians <sp, Tongans, Somoans in particular> had a diet that contained almost no fat until western influences arrived. Up until that point most polynessians were very trim. Now that they eat a diet that is rich in fat nearly every tongan or somoan I've ever met was BIG. Some of it has to do with a culture that encourages eating in social situations, but undoubtably some of it is a result of a people living on fish and tropical fruit and veggies for a couple thousand years. As another example, milk and dairy products were quite rare in asia for a very long time. As a result of this most people of asian decent are lactose intolerant, in fact the percentage is something like 90% where the people decended from europe and africa the percentage is much much lower.

If your ethnic origin tended to eat a lot of a certain diet then the chances are that diet is one that your body will prefer. I'm not saying we can't eat something that your decendents didn't what I'm saying is that I think it plays a role in the amount of fat percentage/carb percentage and other dietary modifications that your body might find as ideal. See I think people that say that there is a perfect diet out there for everyone. In fact I think that is blatent lie, I believe that your diet should be tuned to your own body and I do believe that your ethnic origin plays a role in what your body might find ideal.
 

Sealy

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Originally posted by: pyonir
my roommate's sister became a vegitarian and she gained weight. Make sure you watch carbs if you decide to do it.

Vegetarians usually tend to eat a lot more carbs that's why the weight gain. Carbs give you energy which is great if you burn them off, but if your body can't use them then it stores them in fat. No matter how big or small you get you always have the same amount of fat cells...they just get bigger and smaller depending on diet and let's not forget excercise!
 

yakko

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It would be better if you changed eating habits instead of just cutting out one type of food. A well balanced diet in proper proportions is better than a vegan diet that is not well blanced.
 

4fingerwu

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allright
listen closely
cut your carbohydrates down to less than 30 grams a day and no more than 5 grams a meal
basically all you are going to be eating is meat, cream, cheese, fish and leafy green vegetables -
you can get away with a small amount of nuts
pecans are good as they are low in carbohydrates -
by cutting down on your carbohydrates your pancreas will not release insulin -
insulin converts calories into body fat so by avoiding carbohydrates and thus avoiding a large insulin release you can basically eat as much as you want -
dont be afraid to smother your meals with butter or heavy cream -
this will not cause you to gain weight and will acually be beneficial in losing weight as long as the carbs
are kept very low -
the first several days may be tough
after several days however when your livers glycogen stores are exhausted your body will go into ketosis and you will start to feel pretty good -
you wont have the strong carb cravings anymore, your brain should be working better and you may even have a bit of euphoria -
dont worry about cholesterol or triglyceride levels on this diet as a high fat diet will only cause problems if high levels of insulin are present and without the carbs you wont have these -
If you have carb cravings and need a cheat day- one day a week reverse the course of what you are doing and eat high carb all day long and limit the fat and protein -
this may even be beneficial as it may restore t3 levels (the more active form of thyroid hormone) and provide a physhological break from the high fat food
also good for social events etc
this is the best diet you can do health wise and weight loss wise bar none
if you have any other questions feel free to email
Peace
4finger