Is it dying!???!

cpals

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My 1.4 TBird has a small chip on the surface of the chip and now the temps on it have risen somewhat. I just bought a new heatsink (Swiftech MCX370) and I thought the temps would go down, but they are above 50c. They used to be around 43c. Will this damage my processor or cause garbled data transfers for my hard drive or cd burner? I'm contemplating whether I should get a new 1600+ XP or just see what happens with the TBird.

Any suggestions on how to test to see if it's going to mess up my system?

Thanks a lot.
 

bjc112

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yes, that chip will casue some heat to rise.. but if you aren't overclocking.. don't worry it won't affect your HDD data transfer... plus the Athlons run stable up to 65 C for some :p they acn handle like 90 C be having damage..
 

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BJC112,

They cannot handle sustained 90C socket-thermistor temps. SOcket-thermistor under-reads die temps, therefore a 90C socket-thermistor could easily be a 100+C die temp. That is beyond AMD limits.


Cpals,

What motherboard are you using? What is your sytem temp? Remember that you can't compare temps between different MB's.



Mike
 

cpals

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I have an ECS K7S5A mobo, revision 7. I'm not at my house right now to check case temps, but I believe they are all in the 20s except for the cpu temp.
 

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<< I have an ECS K7S5A mobo, revision 7. I'm not at my house right now to check case temps, but I believe they are all in the 20s except for the cpu temp. >>


Thts a vast difference between case temp & CPU temp then. I suggest u reseat the HSF & reapply termal compound.
 

cpals

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Just got home... mobo is at 30c and case is at 27c... or those numbers could be switched. Anyways, they seem pretty low so I don't know why my cpu is running at 52c right now.

The heatsink was seated properly and I didn't use too much arctic silver... I'm going to run some tests to see if corruption occurs.
 

cpals

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OK, I read somewhere about running Prime95 to see if it gives any errors.... well, I ran it for 5 minutes and my computer restarted! The temp got to 58c, but that shouldn't have caused a restart just by itself.

I have an ECS K7S5A mobo, the pics below I took of one before running prime95 and one during prime95. The voltage divider in MBProbe is set to Winbond. Can you tell me anything? I'm using a 300 watt generics psu.

Thanks.

Click on the links to see the pics.
Before Running Prime95
During Prime95

--UPDATE:--
Ran Prime95 again and computer restarted after Test 7 was running and it reached 61c. Ouch. Any help?
 

Wind

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I think u need to reseat the CPU. Maybe there is too much ASII (u only need paper thin layer) or u have not seated tht HSF correctly. The CPU temp is normally bout 10C more than the case temp. Suggest u take out tht HSF, clean the CPU & HSF w/ achohol. Then re-apply the ASII & seat the HSF again.

W/ swiftech, u should not have any probs removing it as it use screw uinstead of those pain-in-the-neck clip !.

Ur prime95 errors could be due to something else...& most probably not heat related.
 

cpals

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<< Ur prime95 errors could be due to something else...& most probably not heat related. >>



Yeah.... maybe 'cause the processor is chipped??? :frown:
 

baldy

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this is a problem with your heatsink attachment, prolly just slightly off, it is easy to do.

doublecheck the attachement. i have had this problem with my MC462 monster before, just the slightest misalignment, for whatever reason, can cause temps to spike like never before. i have run a chipped cpu with no problems before, but that is not to say that it could be a problem.

reseat carefully and check again.

good luck.

baldy
 

cpals

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I redid the ASII and now it's running just as hot as before. :( Man... this really stinks. Did I mention Prime95 restarted my computer twice?
 

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If whatever the CPU temp you said is good enough to boot and load your OS and be able to run some apps but restarts when you run intensive apps like Prime95 or else, it is more likely the voltage flow coming from your PSU. Based on my experience I've been seeing this problems and attempt to solve by using different methods. Trust me, you will get different results (could be better or worse) with different PSU. The way they put out voltages and the fluctuation levels in CPU Core to +5 and +12V is different depends on the PSU( I am not talking about the wattage). Try a different PSU if you have it. Or, try Antec PSU with Pot adjustments. After I've been experimenting with this mod, I am now able to run my machine(the first one in the sig) marvelously stable at 1420mhz 3D torturing game test(Q3A) looped all freaking day with zero number of auto reboots or system shut down like I used to get very often with the $hitty PSU I used in the past. It was the voltage related, not the temp issue in my situation. Good luck.
 

cpals

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Well, it always ran fine before the chipped core... I could run Prime95 with no problems. I don't feel like spending more money on a power supply... :( Spent all my money on Christmas presents.
 

Wind

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<< Well, it always ran fine before the chipped core... I could run Prime95 with no problems. >>


Well, then u know where the probs is. Keep using it until the CPU rest in peace.



<< I don't feel like spending more money on a power supply... :( Spent all my money on Christmas presents. >>


U dun need to. It's very unlikely its PSU related (as u mention the system run fine b4...until a chipped core).