Is it bad to have steel under your skin?

EliteRetard

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Had a metal fab machine chip a punch and a peice of it shot into my face. At first I thought it just nicked me and left a cut, but after it healed up some I noticed a dark bulge there. Ive attempted to remove it by reopening the wound, but all Ive managed to do is bleed off some dead stuff (black pus?). Its about twice the size of a grain of rice, 80% sure its under my skin.
 
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He doesn't think so.

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Danube

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I still have a pencil tip in my arm where Herbert Jenkins stabbed me in 5th grade.
 

rockyct

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Just go see a doctor about it. Stainless steel is fine I think, but I have no clue about regular steel.
 

eLiu

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Was it clean? Doesn't really sound like it. I'd be more concerned about possible infection than anything else.
 

BoomerD

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It's far from ideal, but it's not necessarily critical. Location and cleanliness of the piece are important though.

I have a chip from a ball-peen hammer in my arm that's been there for almost 30 years. Doctors said it would do more damage to remove it than leaving it in there. (about as large around as a pencil eraser and a couple mm thick at the most. HOPEFULLY it's rusted away by now.
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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I wouldn't worry about infection. If it's been there long enough to heal, I don't think it would all of a sudden become infected now.
 

gaidensensei

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Huh. If it happened to me, I probably wouldn't be quick to dismiss it as nothing. Got to take into mind the piece will eventually oxidize or possibly rust, perhaps bringing it around into your system if it can diffuse into the bloodstream?

Maybe the oxidization will make it become into dioxins that then get stored within the biomass.

Just random thinking, probably won't be this exact scenario but think of what can possibly happen in long term.
 

Meghan54

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Huh. If it happened to me, I probably wouldn't be quick to dismiss it as nothing. Got to take into mind the piece will eventually oxidize or possibly rust, perhaps bringing it around into your system if it can diffuse into the bloodstream?

Maybe the oxidization will make it become into dioxins that then get stored within the biomass.

Just random thinking, probably won't be this exact scenario but think of what can possibly happen in long term.


You do understand the body already deals with rusting metal already, right?

The hemaglobin in your blood, the oxygen carrying part of the red blood cell, uses iron as its main component.....and the iron decays over time.

So, if iron can be handled by the body, a little sliver of metal can, too.

To the OP, if it's causing an infection....producing pus continually, it's something to get looked at. Otherwise, it'll work its way out or stabilize and just find itself at home where it is.
 

Nox51

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Wouldn't an MRI rip it out of his face anyway. Steel - Magnet = ???

Yeah it would hence why the op shouldn't forget about it if he ever takes an MRI. No metals near MRI rule of thumb. Xrays and metals tend to be avoided too.
 

MrColin

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Yeah.

Metal is tough, it will either stay there or come out.
Not sure, but I think small bits of organic material get attacked by the immune system and broken down.
1) Metal is not organic material.
2)Go see a doctor about it, and talk to your boss about not filing a workmen's comp claim to pay for it.
3)The MRI comment was a joke.
4)This thread has demonstrated that you are better off getting medical advice from a 4 year old than these forums.
 
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MrColin

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Maybe the oxidization will make it become into dioxins that then get stored within the biomass.
Nope, not what happens.

You do understand the body already deals with rusting metal already, right?

The hemaglobin in your blood, the oxygen carrying part of the red blood cell, uses iron as its main component.....and the iron decays over time.

So, if iron can be handled by the body, a little sliver of metal can, too.
Closer, but wrong too. Iron is an element, it doesn't break down. It combines with oxygen to form rust (iron oxide). Only some kind of isotope of iron would actually decompose. Hemoglobin contains iron oxide (that is why your blood cells are red (the red ones at least). The red blood cells get old and damaged and eventually get secreted and that is how you lose iron. Your body can deal with snickers bars too, shove one under your skin and see how well that turns out for ya.

A metal chip under the skin can
a) sit there and do nothing. effectively getting encapsulated and just hang out.
b) carry in some bugs and seed an infection
c) migrate around and possibly get involved with stuff like nerves, muscles, bones, blood vessels, or hopefully the surface of the skin and exit the body.

@OP That black puss you are seeing is probably some of the metal getting dissolved in the puss of the infection. You might be able to draw the metal to the surface with a powerful magnet taped to the wound while you sleep. Still you should get the wound flushed out by someone that knows wtf they are doing. You don't want to have a weird purple blister on your face for the rest of your life do you?
 

ShawnD1

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Ask the chick with the toilet brush jammed in her ass.
My girlfriend doesn't want to talk about this :hmm:


4)This thread has demonstrated that you are better off getting medical advice from a 4 year old than these forums.
In a thread about a guy who got his tooth pulled, someone told him to suck everything through a straw just in case. Straw guy was almost banned for posting such horrible advice.

As said, see a doctor.
 

gaidensensei

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Cool so infection aside, we don't really have to worry about any solids that are non-toxic getting into our skins?

Or what would be an example of a non-toxic solid that would affect everything under the epidermal layer?
 

Crono

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1) Metal is not organic material.

I never said it was.

Maybe I wasn't being clear (well, definitely wasn't) but I meant that wood splinters or other organic material could possibly be broken down by the body quicker than metal, which would eventually work its way out but take a long time.

I wasn't stating my response as fact, though.

Yes, OP should seek medical help from a professional if he is that worried.
 

Azraele

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Ask your doctor. I'd be a little worried about the dead stuff/black puss you bleed out.