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IBuyUFO

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Some people are just plain rude in general. Doesn't matter if they're asians or not. I've held door open for so many people that didn't even say thank you.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: ironcrotch

You're being closed minded by assuming that foreign people can easily assimilate to your cultural norms. You're closed minded cuz you don't realize that they might have the same values as you in their home country. You're being closed minded cuz you're expecting them to hold the same values as you, and if they don't they are "rude". How are they suppose to know that it might not be courteous if don't say thank you.

Wrong.

He asked a question, he didn't assume anything. If he already had an assumption, he wouldn't bother asking the question.

Sure he did. Did you not read his thread title? He's assuming asians are rude, but he's just not sure WHICH ones... if it's generalized to all asians, or just foreign.
 

Babbles

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I can't believe some people are giving hell to the OP. It was just an observation and he was asking a question in regards to it, because *gasp* different cultures do have a tendency to do things different; why is it unreasonable to ask a question in regards to this?

The only fools in this thread are those dolts who immediately jump on the racist/closed-minded/dumb American bandwagon.
 

akubi

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: akubi

generalizing that all asians do this due to a "couple" that you've encountered is retarded for obvious reasons. even asking the question is ignorant.

If you're suggesting that asking questions is wrong, I'd like to see how you learn. In addition, questions are usually based on ignorance. There's nothing wrong with that.

ig·no·rant Audio pronunciation of "ignorant" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-nt)
adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.

Hence, if you don't know the answer, you ask a question.

no, i'm not suggesting asking questions is wrong.
i'm saying you should've bother making sweeping generalizations by extrapolating your data from a relatively small sample space.
is that not obvious to the most casual observer?
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: ironcrotch

You're being closed minded by assuming that foreign people can easily assimilate to your cultural norms. You're closed minded cuz you don't realize that they might have the same values as you in their home country. You're being closed minded cuz you're expecting them to hold the same values as you, and if they don't they are "rude". How are they suppose to know that it might not be courteous if don't say thank you.

Wrong.

He asked a question, he didn't assume anything. If he already had an assumption, he wouldn't bother asking the question.

Sure he did. Did you not read his thread title? He's assuming asians are rude, but he's just not sure WHICH ones... if it's generalized to all asians, or just foreign.

Did you not read the actual post?

Can you morons just STFU with your PC whinning and answer the damn question.

God people are WAY too PC these days.
 

booger711

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Originally posted by: Stefan
At my university, most asians will not hold the door for you, say thank you when you hold it for them, or say excuse me or sorry when they bump into you.

I'm very curious to know if it is asians in general that act like this, or if it is just the foreign students who come here from other countries and maybe don't practice such courtesies for others because they arent aware they exist here.

that is one of the most ignorant questions ever.
 

Looney

Lifer
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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: ironcrotch

You're being closed minded by assuming that foreign people can easily assimilate to your cultural norms. You're closed minded cuz you don't realize that they might have the same values as you in their home country. You're being closed minded cuz you're expecting them to hold the same values as you, and if they don't they are "rude". How are they suppose to know that it might not be courteous if don't say thank you.

Wrong.

He asked a question, he didn't assume anything. If he already had an assumption, he wouldn't bother asking the question.

Sure he did. Did you not read his thread title? He's assuming asians are rude, but he's just not sure WHICH ones... if it's generalized to all asians, or just foreign.

Did you not read the actual post?

Can you morons just STFU with your PC whinning and answer the damn question.

God people are WAY too PC these days.

I can't answer the question, because i haven't met most asians yet. When i do, i'll post my answer here.
 

jEct2

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I'm Asian and I got here when I was 13 which was 10 years ago. I have a healthy perspective on both cultures.

They don't usually hold doors and openly say thank you as much because that is simply the sheer difference of culture. We just don't do it ususally, nothing more and nothing less. If you see that as being 'rude' then you have an ignorance problem. That is same as Asians observing Americans are rude with opening their mouths before careful thinking or picking up a spoon before elders at a dinner table. (It's polite to wait until the oldest start eating first.)

It is simply a culture crash.

If Stefan was an Asian in Asia and saw foreign Americans behaved their ways, you would immediately label them as being rude as well. Only the wise may recognize that it is the difference of culture and no offense was intended by either culture.

/thread
 

randomlinh

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that's funny, i notice this for probably half the people I hold the door open for... I thought it was just the fact college students are ungrateful bastards who could care less.
 

thirdlegstump

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Because all of us asians ARE rude especially to Americans! When are you going to get that through your thick skull? We also spit on your streets and stare at your women shamelessly and stink up your town with fowl fish market water. Iight.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: ironcrotch

You're being closed minded by assuming that foreign people can easily assimilate to your cultural norms. You're closed minded cuz you don't realize that they might have the same values as you in their home country. You're being closed minded cuz you're expecting them to hold the same values as you, and if they don't they are "rude". How are they suppose to know that it might not be courteous if don't say thank you.

Wrong.

He asked a question, he didn't assume anything. If he already had an assumption, he wouldn't bother asking the question.

Sure he did. Did you not read his thread title? He's assuming asians are rude, but he's just not sure WHICH ones... if it's generalized to all asians, or just foreign.

Did you not read the actual post?

Can you morons just STFU with your PC whinning and answer the damn question.

God people are WAY too PC these days.

I can't answer the question, because i haven't met most asians yet. When i do, i'll post my answer here.

Good enough.

I will try to answer. I work in a multi-cultural atmosphere. The company I work for has a global presence and we have people all over the world. Our company promotes us going overseas for stints and trying to learn the company as a whole.

That being said...I really think it depends on the individual. Some people are willing to learn and accept other cultures. I've seem Europeans and Asians that will hold the door and elevators for women. I've also seen people from the same culture just flat out walk in front of people and be rude as hell.

Same thing goes for Americans. Some people are willing to learn about different cultures and religions. Some arent.
 

OffTopic1

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Originally posted by: IBuyUFO
Some people are just plain rude in general. Doesn't matter if they're asians or not. I've held door open for so many people that didn't even say thank you.
Or just shove/bump you out of the way to pass with out saying anything.

Maybe Stefan is delirious from the dry summer heat, or the gases from the swamps have an underlie hallucinating affect on the Peggers.
 

OulOat

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I'm Asian and I don't think Stefan was being close-minded. By asking, he obviously shows he is interested in learning why Asians behave like that.

The door holding thing is minor. The main thing I think Americans have against Asians is how Asians chew with their mouth open. In Asian culture it's proper to slurp noodles, chew with your mouth open, and eat a lot, all to complement the cook on his/her delicious cookings. In Western cultures all those are impolite.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: akubi

no, i'm not suggesting asking questions is wrong.
i'm saying you should've bother making sweeping generalizations by extrapolating your data from a relatively small sample space.
is that not obvious to the most casual observer?

You're looking into this too deeply. He didn't publish a report based on his limited experience, it only prompted him to ask an informal question to an internet forum.
 

jEct2

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Originally posted by: OulOat
I'm Asian and I don't think Stefan was being close-minded. By asking, he obviously shows he is interested in learning why Asians behave like that.

The door holding thing is minor. The main thing I think Americans have against Asians is how Asians chew with their mouth open. In Asian culture it's proper to slurp noodles, chew with your mouth open, and eat a lot, all to complement the cook on his/her delicious cookings. In Western cultures all those are impolite.

Um Fvck no. Maybe just eating a lot, or finishing all you were given. But that's same as here in America.

Chewing with mouths open? Which part of Asia are You from? Or are you an ignorant pseudo intellectual American? :roll:
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: OulOat
I'm Asian and I don't think Stefan was being close-minded. By asking, he obviously shows he is interested in learning why Asians behave like that.

The door holding thing is minor. The main thing I think Americans have against Asians is how Asians chew with their mouth open. In Asian culture it's proper to slurp noodles, chew with your mouth open, and eat a lot, all to complement the cook on his/her delicious cookings. In Western cultures all those are impolite.

LOL WTF? I think you've been watching that baseball movie with Tom Selleck a little too much.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: OulOat
I'm Asian and I don't think Stefan was being close-minded. By asking, he obviously shows he is interested in learning why Asians behave like that.

The door holding thing is minor. The main thing I think Americans have against Asians is how Asians chew with their mouth open. In Asian culture it's proper to slurp noodles, chew with your mouth open, and eat a lot, all to complement the cook on his/her delicious cookings. In Western cultures all those are impolite.


Shame on you for not lashing him for being "un-pc"! This is ATOT, a haven for sniveling limpwrists. I'm so offended that I'm forced to comfort myself by gorging on tofu.
 

jEct2

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: OulOat
I'm Asian and I don't think Stefan was being close-minded. By asking, he obviously shows he is interested in learning why Asians behave like that.

The door holding thing is minor. The main thing I think Americans have against Asians is how Asians chew with their mouth open. In Asian culture it's proper to slurp noodles, chew with your mouth open, and eat a lot, all to complement the cook on his/her delicious cookings. In Western cultures all those are impolite.

LOL WTF? I think you've been watching that baseball movie with Tom Selleck a little too much.

His know-it-all enlightened experience with Asians is probably just from watching Joy Luck Club while eating fortune cookies. :roll:
 

91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jEct2


His know-it-all enlightened experience with Asians is probably just from watching Joy Luck Club while eating fortune cookies. :roll:


Aww, is an emotional little boy offended?
 

jEct2

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Mar 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: jEct2


His know-it-all enlightened experience with Asians is probably just from watching Joy Luck Club while eating fortune cookies. :roll:


Aww, is an emotional little boy offended?

Aw, the ignorant troll is back to partake on our little fight. Why don't you go back into your little hole of where you belong? Lonely and all by yourself, just the way you like it, and you don't care because a comprehensive online quiz told you so. ;)
 

ScottFern

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The Asian exchange students/Tas/FOBs all have horrible hygiene. Most of them haven't washed their hair in a week and they don't know what tooth paste is because they have some of the worst breath I have ever smelled.