Is it a unilateral attack if...?

charrison

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The US goes to iraq without the consent of the UN, but has the aid and approval 15 or 20 countries?
Currently 15 of the 19 NATO countries support the regime change with force if needed in Iraq.
 

rickn

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not as long as they help foot the bills and help out in a post-war Iraq. I am sure the supporting countries will get oil and financial perks. I think I heard the US has offered Turkey substantial financial guarantees for their support, beyond what they could have ever imagined.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Tabb
The U.N is a load of crap, they lost their goals...

Agreed. The UN has turned into a forum for countries to posture against the US.
 

Ronstang

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Let's see....there have been 14....hmm 15....crap, I forgot how many...resoutions have been passed by the UN and the summarily ignored by Iraq over the last 12 years with complete impunity. By my scorecard these statistics alone make the UN useless to anyone but the kneewalking liberal French. Anyone who still cares what the UN thinks or does needs to educate themselves and start having an opinion based on something other than their emotions.
 

Hammer

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unilateral = US only
bilateral = US and Great Britain (for example) only
multilateral = what you suggested

UN has nothing to do with it
 

HappyPuppy

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Let's face it. Without the U.S. the UN wouldn't exist.

Let's say we withdrew from the UN and kicked all the UN diplomats out of the U.S. along with renting the UN building out to somebody who can pay the rent. Where would they meet and what would they do? Nowhere and nothing and since nothing is what they do anyway, why bother funding them and putting up with their bullshyt?

Edit: I'm sure some socialist and commie bastards are going to attack me for being an arrogant American. My answer? Fvck you! I'm tired of your bvllshit and I'm tired of paying the bills.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Hammer
unilateral = US only
bilateral = US and Great Britain (for example) only
multilateral = what you suggested

UN has nothing to do with it

But by now it is obvious that this is going to be bilateral at the least, and is highly liking going to be multilateral. But yet the media is still talking about unilateral action.
 

Grey

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Just to be a Devils Advocate here, the UN is supposed to be a forum. It works for some countries but not others. Hopefully it will work for the North Korean situation, because that will get bad, REAL bad if they do choose to attack SK.

Iraq is just belligerent and will do what it wants no matter what the international community says. The UN has done military activities in the past that were warranted (Bosnia, Somalia even though that turned out bad). IF the UN wanted to attack they would need US troops since the majority of nations cannot afford to station troops in another country for any length of time. We should be thankful they lean towards pacifism.
 

HappyPuppy

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Originally posted by: coolVariable
The U.N is a load of crap, they lost their goals...

The U.S is a load of crap, they lost their goals...


What should the goals of the U.S. be?

coolvariable probably thinks we should cower to every world opinion that exists.


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