Is it a "historic" event or a "historical" event?

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: SMOGZINN

Originally posted by: BillGates
an historic

No, it is a historic. The H is not silent.

I have to side with BillGates on this one.

I have to side with SMOGZINN on this one.

I have to side with nakedfrog on this one.

 

[GasX]

actually, it's an historic event

 

[darkxshade]

no, it's actually an 'istoric event

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: SMOGZINN

Originally posted by: darkxshade
Neither, we use "epic" now

An epic

A epic.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: SMOGZINN

Originally posted by: BillGates
an historic

No, it is a historic. The H is not silent.

I have to side with BillGates on this one.

Depends on if you have a Cockney accent or are Arcadio. If you are either of these things, you'd say "an 'istoric." If not, you'd say "a historic."

EDIT: Think about it... do you say "an hospital," "an horrible," or "an heroic"? No, unless you have a Cockney accent. Or if your name is Arcadio.

This.

The key to the a/an rule is often forgotten: it's all dependent on how it sounds when you speak it, not how it's spelled.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Of course not, that's just silly. Then you would obviously say "a hallway"

Yes. Hotdog down an hallway ruins the joke!

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: SMOGZINN

Originally posted by: BillGates
an historic

No, it is a historic. The H is not silent.

I have to side with BillGates on this one.

Depends on if you have a Cockney accent or are Arcadio. If you are either of these things, you'd say "an 'istoric." If not, you'd say "a historic."

EDIT: Think about it... do you say "an hospital," "an horrible," or "an heroic"? No, unless you have a Cockney accent. Or if your name is Arcadio.

This.

The key to the a/an rule is often forgotten: it's all dependent on how it sounds when you speak it, not how it's spelled.

Says you!

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: SMOGZINN

Originally posted by: BillGates
an historic

No, it is a historic. The H is not silent.

I have to side with BillGates on this one.

Depends on if you have a Cockney accent or are Arcadio. If you are either of these things, you'd say "an 'istoric." If not, you'd say "a historic."

EDIT: Think about it... do you say "an hospital," "an horrible," or "an heroic"? No, unless you have a Cockney accent. Or if your name is Arcadio.

This.

The key to the a/an rule is often forgotten: it's all dependent on how it sounds when you speak it, not how it's spelled.

Says you!

That link says you can do it however you want. It claims that "an historic" is grammatically correct, but you could find just as many people with good credentials who'd say that "a historic" is right. I don't know why some people make a special exception for the word "historic," but in every other case, you just use A or An based on how it sounds ("an hour," "a u-turn").

Anyway, you have your link, I have mine: http://www.askoxford.com/askth...faq/aboutgrammar/hotel

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: SMOGZINN

Originally posted by: BillGates
an historic

No, it is a historic. The H is not silent.

I have to side with BillGates on this one.

Depends on if you have a Cockney accent or are Arcadio. If you are either of these things, you'd say "an 'istoric." If not, you'd say "a historic."

EDIT: Think about it... do you say "an hospital," "an horrible," or "an heroic"? No, unless you have a Cockney accent. Or if your name is Arcadio.

This.

The key to the a/an rule is often forgotten: it's all dependent on how it sounds when you speak it, not how it's spelled.

Says you!

Says the Brits! I have it on good authority from DannyBoy that you and your silly english4today website that you are ALL WRONG!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I win.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Says you!

That link says you can do it however you want. It claims that "an historic" is grammatically correct, but you could find just as many people with good credentials who'd say that "a historic" is right. I don't know why some people make a special exception for the word "historic," but in every other case, you just use A or An based on how it sounds ("an hour," "a u-turn").

Anyway, you have your link, I have mine: http://www.askoxford.com/askth...faq/aboutgrammar/hotel

It explains exactly why in my link, "The 'h' in 'historic' is known as an 'h' aspirate"
Yes, it's pedantic, but I don't give a hoot
Your link fails because it doesn't address why it's done. I win, Nik loses (just like always)
I'll give him a consolation cookie:

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I'll give him a consolation cookie:

My mommy told me never to accept candy from strangers, especially if they ask you to get into their car or are naked amphibians.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I'll give him a consolation cookie:

My mommy told me never to accept candy from strangers, especially if they ask you to get into their car or are naked amphibians.

It's not Candy, it's a Cookie!!! Wanna get in my SUV???

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I'll give him a consolation cookie:

My mommy told me never to accept candy from strangers, especially if they ask you to get into their car or are naked amphibians.

It's not Candy, it's a Cookie!!! Wanna get in my SUV???

Do I get a free iPod?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

This is an historic occasion, a hour which will live forever. Now if only we had an host who would bring me a hors d'oeuvres...

 

[Nik]

Mmmmmm I love horse ovaries!!

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: SMOGZINN

Originally posted by: BillGates
an historic

No, it is a historic. The H is not silent.

This.