Is it a good idea to get fat, THEN workout?

dvdrdiscs

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I'm about 5'11" and weigh 160lbs right now. My primary goal is to gain mass. I found it very difficult to try to gain weight from being skinny. I see a lot of people go from fat to mass pretty easily. I'm wondering if it's actually a goood idea to try and gain weight first, then work off the excess fat. I want to hit about 180lbs so I figure if I can hit 190lbs or so by going on an unhealthy, high carb diet, I can later work off the excess fat and hit my goal of 180lbs. What do you guys think? :D
 

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
why dont u take protein products??


I've gone through the high carb in daytime and high protein at night time diet w/ workout. Still found it very difficult to put on lbs.
 

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no it's not. your body's fat cells will get larger and if you get enough fat mass, they will multiply. it is VERY hard to get rid of fat cells (some say impossible). when people thin down (while keeping muscle mass) it mainly reduces the volume of the fat cells and not the number of fat cells. I personally would not want to have more fat cells.
 

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My cousin usually bulks (gains about 30 pounds or so) up in the fall/start of winter and then works out at the end of winter/start of spring. He says this helps give him "something to work with", but I don't think this works for everybody though. He's 6'1" and normally weighs 250lbs. At the end of spring, he looks crazy...my friends and I say he makes HHH (a wrestler from the WWE) look small :Q
 

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
lol...no

I know a professional body builder, and in the off season, he gets overweight. He eats a swansom hungryman atleast once a day to put on a lot of protein and fat weight.
 

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I'm not sure I understand your idea. Gaining pure fat is never a good plan. When you talk about people going from "fat to mass," they're just losing bodyfat and exposing the muscle that was underneath the fat. Going on a hog's diet and adding 30 lbs of blubber does nothing for you in the way of adding muscle. In fact it makes it harder to gain quality mass. Getting fat and then attempting to bulk up beyond that is a recipe for getting hugely fat. Lean people will generally have more favorable muscle/fat gain ratios, assuming they know what they're doing.

You want to bulk, preferably starting from a lean physique. Bulking involves eating above maintenance and lifting weights in an attempt to put on muscle -- unfortunately some bodyfat comes along as part of the bargain. This is what bodybuilders do when they bulk up in the offseason.

If you're having trouble gaining weight, eat more. Figure out your maintenance calories, and every week bump your daily intake up by 500-1000 calories/day, until you're satisfied with your gains. Lift weights, get good sleep, eat the standard 1 gram protein/lb of bodyweight, get some unsaturated fats, and shovel down the complex carbs to meet your caloric requirements.
 

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160 lbs for a 5'11'' woman doesn't seem that skinny to me. I think Serena Williams is about 178 lbs and her shoulders are so broad that when I saw pictures of her in a dress at the MTV video awards I thought I was looking at a man in a dress.
 

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Originally posted by: StormRider
160 lbs for a 5'11'' woman doesn't seem that skinny to me. I think Serena Williams is about 178 lbs and her shoulders are so broad that when I saw pictures of her in a dress at the MTV video awards I thought I was looking at a man in a dress.
It's a man, baby!

Seriously, he's a man.
 

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: StormRider
160 lbs for a 5'11'' woman doesn't seem that skinny to me. I think Serena Williams is about 178 lbs and her shoulders are so broad that when I saw pictures of her in a dress at the MTV video awards I thought I was looking at a man in a dress.
It's a man, baby!

Seriously, he's a man.

its the avatars! everyones in disguise!
 

StormRider

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I thought I remembered the original poster as the chinese girl who was having problems with her parents?
 

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Originally posted by: dvdrdiscs
Originally posted by: z0mb13
how old r u??

23

when i was 23 i was 5'11" 135 lbs.

don't wish it on your self, trust me. i always wanted to gain weight then all of a sudden BOOOM.

now i'm 39 and 5'11" 230 lbs.

trust me, you don't want to go that route.
 

dvdrdiscs

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Originally posted by: StormRider
I thought I remembered the original poster as the chinese girl who was having problems with her parents?

haha. im a d00d, d00d
 

StormRider

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Originally posted by: dvdrdiscs
Originally posted by: StormRider
I thought I remembered the original poster as the chinese girl who was having problems with her parents?

haha. im a d00d, d00d

hehe, sorry.

Now I'm confused. Were you the person talking about how his parents drove him crazy and you moved out but the parents wanted you to move back home? And you went back to do your laundry and your mom and dad said something to make you mad so you just walked out again?

Or was that someone else?
 

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: dvdrdiscs
Originally posted by: z0mb13
how old r u??

23

when i was 23 i was 5'11" 135 lbs.

don't wish it on your self, trust me. i always wanted to gain weight then all of a sudden BOOOM.

now i'm 39 and 5'11" 230 lbs.

trust me, you don't want to go that route.

a year ago, i was 165lbs. last month i was up to 180 lbs. mostly newly gained fat. i thought i'd try to lose some of it. so i started to work out. now i'm close to 190 lbs. less fat than before, but i still weigh more. your plan might work, just dont ever expect to lose the excess baggage.
 

Parrotheader

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Originally posted by: dvdrdiscs
Originally posted by: z0mb13
how old r u??

23
I definitely wouldn't worry about trying it. I was almost the exact same size you were at that age. Now I'm about to turn 28 and I'm up to 175lbs. About half of that additional 15lbs is additional muscle, but about half of it is also a bit of soft flab that came from the transition from a more active college lifestyle to a less active white collar working environment. I'm still thin, still workout regularly and am in very good shape compared to most people (and I'm quite a bit stronger than I was in I was in college.) I've just got a thin layer of padding on my midsection now that's tough to work off without doing gobs of cardio. I do cardio regularly, but not tons as I don't really want to spend any more time working out than I currently do.

Give it time. Odds are you'll add on pounds soon enough. Just keep working out and hopefully most of the pounds will be the type you're looking for.
 

dvdrdiscs

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Originally posted by: StormRider
Originally posted by: dvdrdiscs
Originally posted by: StormRider
I thought I remembered the original poster as the chinese girl who was having problems with her parents?

haha. im a d00d, d00d

hehe, sorry.

Now I'm confused. Were you the person talking about how his parents drove him crazy and you moved out but the parents wanted you to move back home? And you went back to do your laundry and your mom and dad said something to make you mad so you just walked out again?

Or was that someone else?

that could be me but how does that have any relation to this thread? :p