is israeli support about to be the new USA big thing?

[OCGuy]

OP is apparently still wet behind the ears.

 

[Lemon law]

My point is and remains, the current Israeli government position is unsustainable.

As various P&N posters post solutions such as kill all Jews, or kill all Muslims, or kill all Arabs, with a common demonstrator that boils down to "arbitrary killing based on some ill defined criteria". And once the people in the arbitrary group bad people group are all dead, then the people in the good people group can be awarded their land. And there will be no remaining people to oppose that wonderful solution.

But missing in action in all the wondrous calculus is finding a win win way to find a fair solution that requires killing no one. And in finding fair ways to divide the land. And once that way is found, then the people in that nation, have but only two real way forward, learn to mutually co-operate for the common good, or opt for a totally destructive civil war.

Or alternately we can examine the relative butcher bills to achieve a final solution in a now 6 billion people world.

1. Kill all Jews, by far the cheapest solution, that requires only the killing of perhaps only 16 million people down to the last man woman and child. And only 6.5 million if we talk only Israeli Jews.

2. Kill all Arabs, down to the last man woman and child. But now the butchers bill is at least 300 million people.

3. Kill all Muslims and now the butchers bill stands at 1.5 billion people, or at least 25% of the population of the earth.

So it is written, so it shall be done, but only those without sin should cast the first stone. Those with sin, should either kill themselves and their family or report to the nearest extermination center. We will have peace on earth when every human on earth is exterminated. Can't even leave more than one human survive, or one or the other will decide they want it all and must therefore invent a reason to murder the other. and then take everything because the basic human instinct is GREED.

 

[irishScott]

It will undoubtedly be an important piece of foreign policy and a significant issue, but I doubt it will ever become the primary or decisive issue of our time.

Most people I know couldn't give two fucks about what's going on in Israel right now. Israelis and Palestinians killing each other is as regular as drizzle and about as important to us. The general consensus, however, is that Israel is about the only nation worth anything in the Middle East, and is worth supporting simply to stave off the Islamic crazies.

 

[Nemesis 1]

My point is and remains, the current Israeli government position is unsustainable.

As various P&N posters post solutions such as kill all Jews, or kill all Muslims, or kill all Arabs, with a common demonstrator that boils down to "arbitrary killing based on some ill defined criteria". And once the people in the arbitrary group bad people group are all dead, then the people in the good people group can be awarded their land. And there will be no remaining people to oppose that wonderful solution.

But missing in action in all the wondrous calculus is finding a win win way to find a fair solution that requires killing no one. And in finding fair ways to divide the land. And once that way is found, then the people in that nation, have but only two real way forward, learn to mutually co-operate for the common good, or opt for a totally destructive civil war.

Or alternately we can examine the relative butcher bills to achieve a final solution in a now 6 billion people world.

1. Kill all Jews, by far the cheapest solution, that requires only the killing of perhaps only 16 million people down to the last man woman and child. And only 6.5 million if we talk only Israeli Jews.

2. Kill all Arabs, down to the last man woman and child. But now the butchers bill is at least 300 million people.

3. Kill all Muslims and now the butchers bill stands at 1.5 billion people, or at least 25% of the population of the earth.

So it is written, so it shall be done, but only those without sin should cast the first stone. Those with sin, should either kill themselves and their family or report to the nearest extermination center. We will have peace on earth when every human on earth is exterminated. Can't even leave more than one human survive, or one or the other will decide they want it all and must therefore invent a reason to murder the other. and then take everything because the basic human instinct is GREED.

I think PRIDE is the heavy here.

 

[iGas]

It is the terrible system that allows dual citizenships, because it allows people with money/self-serving interest from outside the country to in fluent the political system.

Why the hell do we lets Central American and Mexican have dual citizenship so that they can do crimes in the US then get sent back to their respected countries as gang lords/hero?

Why the hell do we let people from Bosnia and the alike have dual citizenships? They make money and have influential ties in the Canada/US and go back to their "mother land" to rain terrors on its populations and vice versa.

And, why the hell do we allow the Jews and the Palestinians to have dual citizenships so that they can get an education and make money here in North America then go back to their "home land" to take up arms/join the army or militia to rain terrors on its population?

These people are the common terrorists that abuse the dual citizenship system for their selfish gain instead of serving the interest of Canada or the US?

IMHO, dual citizenship law allow terrorist to harbour in safe haven such as the US and Canada.

 

[Hulk]

I think about the children. There must be a way to make peace for them.

 

[Lemon law]

I think about the children. There must be a way to make peace for them.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Finally a poster to hit the nail on the head. As Hitler believed that all Jews must be eliminated because they bore the hereditary guilt of Christ Killers or some other lacks of common humanity.

And now the Present Israeli government believes the same of Palestinian children who suffer the same hereditary guilt for daring to be born brand X in the holy land. And thus forever simply in the way of human progress on the very day of their birth. And thus doomed to be forever doomed due to hereditary guilt whims by the self evident current master race.

Which perfectly explains why, if the non violent Palestinians of Fatah go to the UN to seek an upgrade in their sub human Status, Netanyuhu and the USA will regard any such an effort as nothing less than "diplomatic terrorism"

 

[zanejohnson]

so in reality..

our best bet (and israel's, and palestine's)

is to just forget the past, the past doesn't matter, we need a fresh start.