is halo 3 just overrated?

[hans007]

like, i played halo 1 and loved it.


but honestly i've played halo 2 for a bit and never finished it since it seemed pretty much like the same game.


now my friend has let me borrow halo 3 for a few days and im playing it and... uh its like more or less the same game. the graphics honestly on the 360 are not even much better than halo 2 .


am i in the minority here? i never really played the halos online. but halo 1 seemed like a game that was differnet, but halo 3 seems like just a huge facelift on it.

is it all hype?

 

[gtsing]

I don't really know because I haven't played it either. But, I've heard that the campaign is really only a tiny bit of what Halo 3 has to offer. A very large chunk of its enjoyable content is found online. However, I don't own Halo 3 neither do I own an XBOX, so I really don't know if this is true or not.

 

[CasioTech]

Of course it's all hype. Nothing but ads and ads for Halo everywhere you turn makes you believe it's a great game.

The commercials are the dumbest I have ever seen. With that stupid delicate piano and some old guy and figurines in their ads are more of a laugh riot than anything else.

It's ALL HYPE. Microsoft knows how BS people into buying their shitty products. Who else would get burned by their console breaking all the time and still go back to MS? And Vista's no better. Microsoft is really starting to screw up big time and now with their broken Halo's. LOL and people keep coming back for more *** *******.

As for the reviews, the overt catering to mainstream tastes and interests. IGN, GS, Etc are largely characterized by their poorly written reviews and haphazard game ratings. Known for giving inflated review scores to very popular or hyped games in order to drive sales for their advertisers and corporate sponsors.

Oh and if you think Halo2 is like Halo3. Just wait until you see Halo2 Vista, it's JUST LIKE Halo3 minus a few effects here and there.

 

[J]

Of course its overrated and overhyped,its a cow cash for microsoft and bungie.If you think about there isn't really anything innovative about the halo series.I played halo 1 & 2 and the endings are utter crap basically advertisement for the next game.I'm not hating but the way people talk and microsft hypes halo you would think its some new and innovative franchise.I refuse to fall for the hype a third time.

 

[CasioTech]

I know, the third one is one thing, but the first was really utter crap. I think Unreal was better than Halo1.

The only thing halo had was that real time gravity thing down since you couldn't move faster than 1mph on foot.

 

[Cellulose]

I have never understood how a game can be overrated - its just personal opinion whether you like the game and its the same with saying a certain console sucks etc.

Of course it's all hype. Nothing but ads and ads for Halo everywhere you turn makes you believe it's a great game. It's ALL HYPE. Microsoft knows how BS people into buying their shitty products. Who else would get burned by their console breaking all the time and still go back to MS? And Vista's no better. Microsoft is really starting to screw up big time and now with their broken Halo's. LOL and people keep coming back for more *** *******.

Like this for example...

 

[ZzZGuy]

@ konbjocky
Sometimes a game grossly underperforms so much that it's not the same game you expected. With the hype of Halo 3 i can see this happening.

However if you ignore the hype and are still looking forward to playing the game then chances are you'll still be happy with it.

 

[Cellulose]

But the individuals who are not enjoying the game seem to be those who think the Halo series is not so good in the first place. I dont enjoy the series however I appreciate there are millions who love the game - hence many of the user reviews.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

depends on if you have played pc shooters or not.

 

[potato28]

It also depends if you want to play Co-Op online with friends, or just screw around for a little on regular matches.

 

[hans030390]

Halo 1 is still one of my favorites. Halo 2 wasn't quite as good. Halo 3 doesn't seem like much of an improvement from Halo 2.

I played it for a few hours last night, and I still don't think the graphics are that great. The lighting/shadows are good, and some textures+bump mapping (or whatever it uses) make it look good. Actually, the texture work is great, and always has been in the Halo series. Other than that, I wasn't that impressed. This is on a 50" HDTV (and a NICE on at that).

I really wasn't that thrilled while playing it. Just more of the same. Sure, don't fix what's not broken, but they didn't take ANY risks with the game. It's just the same, to the point of being boring. I found it repetitive too. Yeah, most FPS games are...but why should I have to run back to the command center in a level TWICE (after already starting there)? Ok, to tell me they have a bomb. Ok, to tell me to re-arm the bomb. It was boring and repetitive. What about the level where you're going to Voi (or whatever it was called)? Going through that big facility...All I saw was the same thing, over and over.

Ok, so Halo 1 and 2 both did that...so do a lot of shooters. For some reason, though, it bored me this time around, and I'm not feeling the near perfect scores this game is getting.

I just hope the rest of the game is more exciting.

 

[Piuc2020]

Halo is a pretty average game and on single-player it downright sucks, even more so if you have played PC shooters.

What makes Halo fun though is the co-op and the multiplayer, the game isn't the best multiplayer game out there but its still fun as hell to play a few matches here and then and mess around with your friends.

Bungie shouldn't even bother including a single player campaign with Halo games, they are boring and mediocre. Multiplayer is nice but not godly as people think.

However all said and done, most high profile shooters on the PC absolutely shred Halo to pieces and why Halo is so damn popular still remains a mystery to me.

I haven't played Team Fortress 2 but I'm sure the Orange Box will be such a better game than Halo 3 in ALL aspects yet I doubt it will get as much attention as Halo 3.

 

[CasioTech]

if Microsoft purchased Valve it sure would 😉.

 

[hans030390]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
Halo is a pretty average game and on single-player it downright sucks, even more so if you have played PC shooters.

I wouldn't say average. The games are generally extremely solid and polished, which many games aren't (even on PC).

The original Halo was revolutionary, in some ways, in the FPS area. Great graphics (especially textures), solid gameplay (though simple, it was refreshing in a way), big open areas to fight in (good vehicles), cramped areas to fight in (which worked well also), decent story, etc etc. Multiplayer was great, especially the big fights in maps like Blood Gulch.

I hadn't played anything like Halo up until that point.

I don't think games like Half-Life are any better than Halo...HL actually was more of a headache for me to play.

Halo 2 and Halo 3 haven't really been nearly as exciting or refreshing as Halo 1 was.

I'm one to say that Halo 2 and 3 are overrated and over hyped, but calling Halo (at least 1) overrated and saying the SP sucked is way too harsh.

 

[randay]

its overhyped, not overrated. definitely not leaps and bounds above halo 2 or 1 but its still the same game with solid gameplay. maybe overrated as a sequel in a hit franchise or next gen fps. the marketing is definitely rediculous, i mean fuck... what the hell, heh.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
depends on if you have played pc shooters or not.

People say that all the time, but it's simply untrue. I HAVE played all the major PC shooters and I still love the Halo series. I enjoy the story and the gameplay as much as most shooters out there... on any platform. I think one of the major attractions for me is the co-op campaigns.

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: hans030390

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
Halo is a pretty average game and on single-player it downright sucks, even more so if you have played PC shooters.

I wouldn't say average. The games are generally extremely solid and polished, which many games aren't (even on PC).

The original Halo was revolutionary, in some ways, in the FPS area. Great graphics (especially textures), solid gameplay (though simple, it was refreshing in a way), big open areas to fight in (good vehicles), cramped areas to fight in (which worked well also), decent story, etc etc. Multiplayer was great, especially the big fights in maps like Blood Gulch.

I hadn't played anything like Halo up until that point.

I don't think games like Half-Life are any better than Halo...HL actually was more of a headache for me to play.

Halo 2 and Halo 3 haven't really been nearly as exciting or refreshing as Halo 1 was.

I'm one to say that Halo 2 and 3 are overrated and over hyped, but calling Halo (at least 1) overrated and saying the SP sucked is way too harsh.

LOL. what was so refreshing about HALO? The bad graphics/AI/Framerates/no online support, etc?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
depends on if you have played pc shooters or not.

That?s a pretty moronic statement, ive been playing PC FPS's for years, every since Tribes, man i loved tribes, ive played and beaten every major PC FPS, and played many of the more online ones like BF and such,

The halo series is just as good as any of those,

Halo 1 at the time IMO was the best FPS for single player out at the time on either platform, yes its MP was weak, however it was fun if you got some people to do it on a lan and such, we used to do it when we were drunk at college, was great

Halo 2 had good single player, not as good as 1 however it was still decent, fun and continued the story, and typically if you have a 3 part series the middle one is always weak, however where it excelled was MP, XBL+ halo 2 basically revolutionized how online MP is done on a console, its pretty close to perfect

in halo 3 yes it may just be more of the same, however many millions of people like that and find it fun, i loved the single player, better then 2, on par with 1, loved the story, really enjoyed playing it, new stuff is nice and works well with the old
the MP is just a refined version of what they did in 2, honestly playing online solo or with friends is much more fun, + easier then doing it on a PC, 90% of the people i know play online with XBL on many games, most of them don?t care about PC games

Consoles are IMO more social, great to play with some people over and such, PCs not so much


And 1 last thing, this damn KB/M vs Controller debate has to stop, its pointless, consoles use a controller get over it, EVERYONE has to use it, you may feel its inferior then a KB/M combo, but everyone is using it, the playing field is even. IMO you just fucking suck as a gamer if you cant adapt to use the controller, fucking learn it, its not hard, stop blaming the controller because you suck,

With a KB/M there will be people that are better at it then you same with the controller, its absolutely no different.

The ONLY way you seriously could have serious issues with a controller is if you didn?t have any thumbs

 

[hans030390]

Originally posted by: CasioTech

Originally posted by: hans030390

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
Halo is a pretty average game and on single-player it downright sucks, even more so if you have played PC shooters.

I wouldn't say average. The games are generally extremely solid and polished, which many games aren't (even on PC).

The original Halo was revolutionary, in some ways, in the FPS area. Great graphics (especially textures), solid gameplay (though simple, it was refreshing in a way), big open areas to fight in (good vehicles), cramped areas to fight in (which worked well also), decent story, etc etc. Multiplayer was great, especially the big fights in maps like Blood Gulch.

I hadn't played anything like Halo up until that point.

I don't think games like Half-Life are any better than Halo...HL actually was more of a headache for me to play.

Halo 2 and Halo 3 haven't really been nearly as exciting or refreshing as Halo 1 was.

I'm one to say that Halo 2 and 3 are overrated and over hyped, but calling Halo (at least 1) overrated and saying the SP sucked is way too harsh.

LOL. what was so refreshing about HALO? The bad graphics/AI/Framerates/no online support, etc?

Bad graphics? It was one of the best looking games (on consoles, at least) at that time. The AI? No, it wasn't great, but the game was challenging enough. It was better than most games out at the time. Framerate? The game always ran smooth for me...Don't know what you're talking about. Online? Yeah, well Live wasn't very well established (if at all) at that time, and it was a launch title (or close). You can't expect everything. The MP was really customizable, though. If you ignored the fact that it was offline/LAN only, it had a really fun MP. Besides, online console gaming was VERY small at that time.

I was all into FPS games, but Halo was something that REALLY made me interested in them. It was very solid (yet usually simple), fun, I enjoyed the art direction, etc. It was a big step in the FPS genre, considering most FPS games strive to be just as well known and solid as Halo.

You sound like nothing more than a Halo hater. It's ok to hate the crazy fanboys, the overratedness of the sequels, and all the hype, but all of your comments come straight from some strange hatred towards the game (Perhaps created by the other factors, like fanboys?).

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: CasioTech

Originally posted by: hans030390

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
Halo is a pretty average game and on single-player it downright sucks, even more so if you have played PC shooters.

I wouldn't say average. The games are generally extremely solid and polished, which many games aren't (even on PC).

The original Halo was revolutionary, in some ways, in the FPS area. Great graphics (especially textures), solid gameplay (though simple, it was refreshing in a way), big open areas to fight in (good vehicles), cramped areas to fight in (which worked well also), decent story, etc etc. Multiplayer was great, especially the big fights in maps like Blood Gulch.

I hadn't played anything like Halo up until that point.

I don't think games like Half-Life are any better than Halo...HL actually was more of a headache for me to play.

Halo 2 and Halo 3 haven't really been nearly as exciting or refreshing as Halo 1 was.

I'm one to say that Halo 2 and 3 are overrated and over hyped, but calling Halo (at least 1) overrated and saying the SP sucked is way too harsh.

LOL. what was so refreshing about HALO? The bad graphics/AI/Framerates/no online support, etc?

At the time no console game that was developed as an FPS was worth a damn. Halo changed that. PERIOD


edit: those of you who say the campaign in the Halo series is weak need to play through it and understand the storyline. You don't understand how well done it is for an FPS. There is a reason you're fighting, a reason you kill what you kill, and a background on the main character that you do not get unless you play it. It doesn't have the typical "Go save the world" BS storyline of most games. If you think it does then I label you dumb and uninformed.

 

[Piuc2020]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

At the time no console game that was developed as an FPS was worth a damn. Halo changed that. PERIOD


edit: those of you who say the campaign in the Halo series is weak need to play through it and understand the storyline. You don't understand how well done it is for an FPS. There is a reason you're fighting, a reason you kill what you kill, and a background on the main character that you do not get unless you play it. It doesn't have the typical "Go save the world" BS storyline of most games. If you think it does then I label you dumb and uninformed.

Maybe but that doesn't mean there were much superior FPS on the PC, nowadays, people seem to think Halo is the best FPS when in reality its only the best CONSOLE shooter (and even that is debatable), when pitted against PC shooters Halo doesn't really stand a chance.

And I've played through the campaign in Halo 1 and Halo 2 and the story wasn't that interesting, it just recycles elements from the Marathon games and pulls it off in an unremarkable fashion. The Master Chief is cool but not from a character standpoint, his character is pretty boring and when he is not fighting he is a pretty boring character, Cortana is borderline annoying at times.

And what about 343 Guilty Spark? Bungie should be ashamed they tried to copy Durandal from Marathon and even 7 years later they couldn't pull it off right.

The truth is that for most Marathon players, Halo just failed to live up to the massive expectations laid by the Marathon series. So what is Halo in the end? A poor remake of the Marathon series (and unless you've played Marathon don't try to refute this point) held back by the Xbox console. It IS a fun game on multiplayer and the main campaign is passable but that is it, I still don't understand how this became the biggest game on earth.

So yeah, Halo is good, but its hardly deserving of the 9.5+ scores and inmense hype it gets, Halo 1 deserves a solid 9 on Xbox and 8.0 on PC, Halo 2 deserves an 8.5 on Xbox and 6.0 on PC and I won't comment on Halo 3 cause I haven't played it yet.

Now if you want a good storyline, go play Marathon, Bungie's greatest game yet (and ironically least popular as well). It is free too.

 

[Anubis]

IDK what expectations you are talking about, Halo was origionally gonna be a RTS before MS purchased Bungie, and IIRC they have never said Marathon and Halo are in the same universe or not, they share common elements that worked but thats about it, all of the other connections are simply fan fiction

i played and loved the marathon series and i love the halo series

and name a better console shooter, GOW isnt nearly as fun as Halo 3 online, and had very little if no replay value

 

[Piuc2020]

Halo was supposed to be a RTS I know but then it became a shooter and I am talking about "spiritual" connections if you will, not actual ones in the game universe.

Plus, the Marathon logo can be seen all over Halo, Master Chief looks the same as the Mjolnir Mark Cyborg from Marathon? Mjolnir for that matter? Those little aliens yelling "they're everywhere", the SPNKR? 343 Guilty Spark? Cortana? Forge map editor? Really, the influence of Marathon is pretty heavy on Marathon and those are just a few things there are a lot more.

It's impossible to deny Halo is the spiritual successor to Marathon, the game universes might not be connected but I wouldn't be surprised if that idea was dropped just because most Halo players aren't even old enough to have played Marathon and those that are old enough were probably busy playing Doom because Marathon was a Mac exclusive and Macs back in 1994 had even less market share than they do today.

And I'm not saying Halo isn't good because it is and its pretty fun to play online, but it sucks on SP and its hardly deserving of being the biggest and most hyped game on the planet.

 

[Hyperlite]

I'm having a blast, and thats all that matters.

"but it sucks on SP and its hardly deserving of being the biggest and most hyped game on the planet.

a few hundred thousand people beg to differ. i'm on my third time through campaign now, after retrieving all the skulls, and i'm still having a blast. i love how many messages i get after matches asking me where i got my "wicked sick helmet." pff. If you don't like it, fine. shut up already. (not specifically you Piuc, but hans and others...) Its not like everyone is going to be like, "you know what? this guy is right, i was wrong. this game blows."

edit: and the retrieval of the IWHBYD skull was downright devious. 😀

 

[Queasy]

I don't know about the game but I'm thinking all the Halo hate is definitely overrated and overhyped.