Is Gravity the next "theory" to be attacked?

[Todd33]

Burdett added: "Gravity?which is taught to our children as a law?is founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force. Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."

Funny read, to lighten the mood at the expense of real life morons.

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4133&n=2

 

[Kadarin]

Thanks for posting that; thats some funny sh!t. The Onion 4tw

(I love how they use the exact same arguments that the ID fuknuts put forth.)

 

[Xyclone]

Haha, what's next with these damn Repulican Conservative hicks? The Iraq War has a purpose?

"It might be funnier if it wasn't true"

 

[alchemize]

real life morons.
ID fuknuts
damn Repulican Conservative hicks

Such quality posters...

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Such quality posters...

You make a legitimate point, but I must admit I consider "Intelligent" Design, and its proponents, as morons with a particularly silly agenda.

 

[randym431]

HEY!
Watch it here with Republican bashing.
Bush just might have you thrown off the edge of the earth.

 

[Phokus]

hahahahaha, oh god that's hillarious, i love the onion!

Stupid RepubliTALIBAN morons with their whacked out theories

 

[0roo0roo]

 

[mylok]

of course GRAVITY will be attacked next as everyone knows it just a myth the truth is the earth just sucks

 

[Proletariat]

Haha, the Onion is aweseome.

I found an ad for this on the bottom:

http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/chen.html?Category_Code=newr

Its "Che-Ney". My alter ego :Q

It even has a oil thingie on the beret :laugh:

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: alchemize
real life morons.
ID fuknuts
damn Repulican Conservative hicks

Such quality posters...

Rather than add anything to the post by either agreeing or disagreeing, you choose to flame the posters.

That, sir, makes you the lowest quality poster.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: alchemize
real life morons.
ID fuknuts
damn Repulican Conservative hicks

Such quality posters...

Just remember Moonbeams theories of self-hate. This kind of crap comes out from those who's own political party keeps losing to a bunch of "morons."

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: alchemize
real life morons.
ID fuknuts
damn Repulican Conservative hicks

Such quality posters...

Just remember Moonbeams theories of self-hate. This kind of crap comes out from those who's own political party keeps losing to a bunch of "morons."

You mean lying "morons".

 

[Moonbeam]

I doubt that ID is a strictly a Republican phenomenon and I don't see how believing in it equates to a belief in the Iraq War as similarly moronic.

Further, a belief in ID is not, in my opinion moronic. Many believers are far far more intelligent than those who don't. It is really because of their belief in God attached to a need to see the Bible as the absolute word of God that drives their often high IQ to find ways to rationalize and promote ID as an alternative. They are absolutely convinced there is a God and use their intelligence to defend what they think of as the highest good. You can't get a much more noble cause and this adds to the feeling of certainty.

I happen to believe that what they call God is a real aspect of Human Life although I see that truth as true in a completely different direction. But in their belief in this highest good I feel they are morally superior to the relativist atheist.

So while the word moronic is what it looks like in terms of the facts in the earth, there are other truths at stake here.

We also do not know how the Iraq war will play out or if our intervention will not ultimately be better than had we stayed home.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: alchemize
real life morons.
ID fuknuts
damn Repulican Conservative hicks

Such quality posters...

Just remember Moonbeams theories of self-hate. This kind of crap comes out from those who's own political party keeps losing to a bunch of "morons."

Morons voting for morons. Only they don't vote for Bush as much as against "liberals". They'd rather have their lying morons than face the truth because the truth is too painful to face. Bush has totally screwed up Iraq, the Middle East, and America's reputation around the world at the cost of thousands upon thousands of lives lost unnecessarily and now it's too late for them to admit the truth because the truth is, they've all died for a lie. Just like Vietnam. And just like Vietnam we're losing this one too.

You Bushies all clamored for more death and destruction when U.S. forces attacked and leveled Fallujah. Well, all that death and destrucion was for naught. More useless unnecessary deaths caused by Bush's lies.

What was the name of that operation that rid Fallujah of "insurgents" and "terrorists"? Operation Failure?

U.S., insurgents locked in stalemate

By Tom Lasseter

Knight Ridder Newspapers

FALLUJAH, Iraq ? Insurgents in Anbar province, the center of guerrilla resistance in Iraq, have fought the U.S. military to a stalemate.

After repeated major combat offensives in Fallujah and Ramadi, and after losing hundreds of soldiers and Marines in Anbar during the past two years - including 75 since June 1 - many American officers and enlisted men assigned to Anbar have stopped talking about winning a military victory in Iraq's Sunni Muslim heartland. Instead, they're trying to hold on to a handful of population centers and hit smaller towns in a series of quick-strike operations designed to disrupt insurgent activities temporarily.

"I don't think of this in terms of winning," said Col. Stephen Davis, who commands a task force of about 5,000 Marines in an area of some 24,000 square miles in the western portion of Anbar. Instead, he said, his Marines are fighting a war of attrition. "The frustrating part for the (American) audience, if you will, is they want finality. They want a fight for the town and in the end the guy with the white hat wins."

That's unlikely in Anbar, Davis said. He expects the insurgency to last for years, hitting American and Iraqi forces with quick ambushes, bombs and mines. Roadside bombs have hit vehicles Davis was riding in three times this year already.

"We understand counter-insurgency ... we paid for these lessons in blood in Vietnam," Davis said. "You'll get killed on a nice day when everything is quiet."

Most of Iraq is far quieter than Anbar. But Anbar is Iraq's largest province and home to the Arab Sunni minority, which dominated the government under Saddam Hussein's dictatorship. It's the strategic center of the country, and failure to secure it could thwart the Bush administration's hopes of helping to create a functioning Iraqi democracy.

Military officials now frequently compare the fight in Anbar to the Vietnam War, saying that guerrilla fighters, who blend back into the population, are trying to break the will of the American military - rather than defeat it outright - and to erode public support for the war back home.

"If it were just killing people that would win this, it'd be easy," said Marine Maj. Nicholas Visconti, 35, of Brookfield, Conn., who served in southern Iraq in 2003. "But look at Vietnam. We killed millions, and they kept coming. It's a war of attrition. They're not trying to win. It's just like in Vietnam. They won a long, protracted fight that the American public did not have the stomach for. ... Killing people is not the answer; rebuilding the cities is."

Minutes after he spoke, two mortar rounds flew over the building where he's based in Hit. Visconti didn't flinch as the explosions rang out.

During three weeks of reporting along the Euphrates River valley, home to Anbar's main population centers and the core of insurgent activity, military officials offered three primary reasons that guerrilla fighters have held and gained ground: the enemy's growing sophistication, insufficient numbers of U.S. troops and the lack of trained and reliable Iraqi security forces.

They described an enemy who's intelligent and adaptive:

- Military officials in Ramadi said insurgents there had learned the times of their patrol shift changes. When one group of vehicles comes to relieve another, civilian traffic is pushed to the side of the road to allow the military to pass. Insurgents plan and use this opportunity, surrounded by other cars, to drop homemade bombs out their windows or through holes cut in the rear floor.

- The insurgents have figured out by trial and error the different viewing ranges of the optics systems in American tanks, Bradley Fighting Vehicles and Humvees.

"They've mapped it out. They go into the road and try to draw fire to see what our range is and then they make a note of it and start putting IEDs that far out," said Army Maj. Jason Pelletier, 32, of the 28th Infantry Division, referring to improvised explosive devices, the military's term for homemade bombs. "It's that cat-and-mouse game. They do something, we react and they note our reaction," said Pelletier, who's from Milton, Vt.

- Faced with the U.S. military's technological might, guerrilla fighters have relied on gathering intelligence and using cheap, effective devices to kill and maim.

Marines raided a home near their base in Hit and found three Sudanese insurgents with a crude map they'd drawn of the American base, including notes detailing when patrols left the gate, whether they were on foot or in vehicles and the numbers of Marines on the patrols.

The three men also had $11,000 in cash in an area in which insurgents pay locals $50 to plant bombs in the road.

The guerrilla fighters in Hit have used small, yellow and pink, Japanese star-shaped alarm clocks - similar to those popular with little girls in the United States - as timers to detonate rocket launchers and mortar systems aimed at Marine positions. They frequently use sawed-off curtain rods planted 50 or so yards away to calibrate the ranges to nearby bases. One of the two Marine positions in the city receives mortar fire almost daily. Patrols from the other base are hit by frequent roadside bombings.

Instead of referring to the enemy derisively as "terrorists" - as they used to - Marines and soldiers now give the insurgents a measure of respect by calling them "mujahedeen," an Arabic term meaning "holy warrior" that became popular during the Afghan guerrilla campaign against the Soviet Union.

Military commanders in Anbar hope to combat the insurgency through a multi-pronged strategy of political progress, reconstruction and training Iraqi security forces.

However, there's been less political progress in Anbar than in Iraq's Kurdish north and Shiite Muslim south, the violence there has stymied progress in rebuilding towns destroyed in the fighting and Iraqi forces are still a long way from being able to secure the province.

U.S. officials hope that a strong turnout in national elections in December will turn people away from violence. They expressed similar hopes before last January's elections. However, while those elections were a success in many parts of the nation, in Anbar the turnout was in the single digits.

"Some of the Iraqis say they want to vote but they're worried there'll be a bomb at the polling station," Marine Capt. James Haunty, 27, of Columbus, Ohio, said recently. "It's a legitimate fear, but I always tell them, just trust me."

Less than five minutes after Haunty spoke, near the town of Hit, a roadside bomb down the street produced a loud boom followed by a funnel of black smoke.

Many Sunnis in Anbar say they'll vote against the constitution in October, as they've felt excluded from the process of drafting the document.

While fighting has badly damaged many towns and precluded widespread reconstruction efforts, Marines in Fallujah are working to make that city a centerpiece of rebuilding. Fallujah residences sustained some $225 million in damage last November during a U.S. assault aimed at clearing the city of insurgents, according to Marine Lt. Col. Jim Haldeman, who oversees the civil military operations center in Fallujah.

Homeowners have received 20 percent of that amount to rebuild homes, and will get the next 20 percent in the coming weeks, Haldeman said. Families are walking the streets once again and shops have reopened. The sound of hammers is constant, and men line the streets mixing concrete and laying bricks out to dry.

Even so, of the 250,000 population before the fighting, just 150,000 residents have returned. And the insurgency has come back to the area.

Iraqis are still a long way from being able to provide their own security in Anbar. As with much of the province, Fallujah has no functioning police force. Police in Ramadi are confined to two heavily fortified stations, after insurgents destroyed or seriously damaged eight others.

The Iraqi national guard, heralded last year as the answer to local security, was dissolved because of incompetence and insurgent infiltration, as was the guard's predecessor, the civil defense corps.

The new Iraqi army has participated in all the Marines' recent sweeps in Anbar, in a limited way. While the Iraqi soldiers haven't thrown down their weapons and run, as they have in the past, many of them are still unable to operate without close U.S. supervision.

---

Tom Lasseter made regular trips to Fallujah in the summer and winter of 2003, interviewing tribal sheiks and residents there before the town fell to insurgents. He wrote extensively about the brewing unrest in the region, and the misunderstandings and conflicts between residents and the U.S. military units stationed there. During that period he was able to walk freely throughout the town with a translator.

He was last in Fallujah without military escort in early 2004 when insurgents overran the downtown police station. After men repeatedly pointed AK-47s at his chest and face and threatened to shoot him, he decided not to return except with American troops. Insurgents took over the town that April.

He reported on troops in Ramadi last summer, and wrote about the scaling back of patrols there and low morale among troops. He returned to Anbar province in November, when U.S. troops retook Fallujah in the worst urban combat since Vietnam. For this series of stories, Lasseter spent three weeks in the province this month embedded with Marine and Army units in Haqlaniya, Haditha, Hit, Ramadi and Fallujah.

 

[cwjerome]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: alchemize
real life morons.
ID fuknuts
damn Repulican Conservative hicks

Such quality posters...

Rather than add anything to the post by either agreeing or disagreeing, you choose to flame the posters.

That, sir, makes you the lowest quality poster.

Oh, the irony in your post...

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: alchemize
real life morons.
ID fuknuts
damn Repulican Conservative hicks

Such quality posters...

Just remember Moonbeams theories of self-hate. This kind of crap comes out from those who's own political party keeps losing to a bunch of "morons."

Morons voting for morons. Only they don't vote for Bush as much as against "liberals". They'd rather have their lying morons than face the truth because the truth is too painful to face. Bush has totally screwed up Iraq, the Middle East, and America's reputation around the world at the cost of thousands upon thousands of lives lost unnecessarily and now it's too late for them to admit the truth because the truth is, they've all died for a lie. Just like Vietnam. And just like Vietnam we're losing this one too.

You Bushies all clamored for more death and destruction when U.S. forces attacked and leveled Fallujah. Well, all that death and destrucion was for naught. More useless unnecessary deaths caused by Bush's lies.

What was the name of that operation that rid Fallujah of "insurgents" and "terrorists"? Operation Failure?

U.S., insurgents locked in stalemate

By Tom Lasseter

Knight Ridder Newspapers

FALLUJAH, Iraq ? Insurgents in Anbar province, the center of guerrilla resistance in Iraq, have fought the U.S. military to a stalemate.

After repeated major combat offensives in Fallujah and Ramadi, and after losing hundreds of soldiers and Marines in Anbar during the past two years - including 75 since June 1 - many American officers and enlisted men assigned to Anbar have stopped talking about winning a military victory in Iraq's Sunni Muslim heartland. Instead, they're trying to hold on to a handful of population centers and hit smaller towns in a series of quick-strike operations designed to disrupt insurgent activities temporarily.

"I don't think of this in terms of winning," said Col. Stephen Davis, who commands a task force of about 5,000 Marines in an area of some 24,000 square miles in the western portion of Anbar. Instead, he said, his Marines are fighting a war of attrition. "The frustrating part for the (American) audience, if you will, is they want finality. They want a fight for the town and in the end the guy with the white hat wins."

That's unlikely in Anbar, Davis said. He expects the insurgency to last for years, hitting American and Iraqi forces with quick ambushes, bombs and mines. Roadside bombs have hit vehicles Davis was riding in three times this year already.

"We understand counter-insurgency ... we paid for these lessons in blood in Vietnam," Davis said. "You'll get killed on a nice day when everything is quiet."

Most of Iraq is far quieter than Anbar. But Anbar is Iraq's largest province and home to the Arab Sunni minority, which dominated the government under Saddam Hussein's dictatorship. It's the strategic center of the country, and failure to secure it could thwart the Bush administration's hopes of helping to create a functioning Iraqi democracy.

Military officials now frequently compare the fight in Anbar to the Vietnam War, saying that guerrilla fighters, who blend back into the population, are trying to break the will of the American military - rather than defeat it outright - and to erode public support for the war back home.

"If it were just killing people that would win this, it'd be easy," said Marine Maj. Nicholas Visconti, 35, of Brookfield, Conn., who served in southern Iraq in 2003. "But look at Vietnam. We killed millions, and they kept coming. It's a war of attrition. They're not trying to win. It's just like in Vietnam. They won a long, protracted fight that the American public did not have the stomach for. ... Killing people is not the answer; rebuilding the cities is."

Minutes after he spoke, two mortar rounds flew over the building where he's based in Hit. Visconti didn't flinch as the explosions rang out.

During three weeks of reporting along the Euphrates River valley, home to Anbar's main population centers and the core of insurgent activity, military officials offered three primary reasons that guerrilla fighters have held and gained ground: the enemy's growing sophistication, insufficient numbers of U.S. troops and the lack of trained and reliable Iraqi security forces.

They described an enemy who's intelligent and adaptive:

- Military officials in Ramadi said insurgents there had learned the times of their patrol shift changes. When one group of vehicles comes to relieve another, civilian traffic is pushed to the side of the road to allow the military to pass. Insurgents plan and use this opportunity, surrounded by other cars, to drop homemade bombs out their windows or through holes cut in the rear floor.

- The insurgents have figured out by trial and error the different viewing ranges of the optics systems in American tanks, Bradley Fighting Vehicles and Humvees.

"They've mapped it out. They go into the road and try to draw fire to see what our range is and then they make a note of it and start putting IEDs that far out," said Army Maj. Jason Pelletier, 32, of the 28th Infantry Division, referring to improvised explosive devices, the military's term for homemade bombs. "It's that cat-and-mouse game. They do something, we react and they note our reaction," said Pelletier, who's from Milton, Vt.

- Faced with the U.S. military's technological might, guerrilla fighters have relied on gathering intelligence and using cheap, effective devices to kill and maim.

Marines raided a home near their base in Hit and found three Sudanese insurgents with a crude map they'd drawn of the American base, including notes detailing when patrols left the gate, whether they were on foot or in vehicles and the numbers of Marines on the patrols.

The three men also had $11,000 in cash in an area in which insurgents pay locals $50 to plant bombs in the road.

The guerrilla fighters in Hit have used small, yellow and pink, Japanese star-shaped alarm clocks - similar to those popular with little girls in the United States - as timers to detonate rocket launchers and mortar systems aimed at Marine positions. They frequently use sawed-off curtain rods planted 50 or so yards away to calibrate the ranges to nearby bases. One of the two Marine positions in the city receives mortar fire almost daily. Patrols from the other base are hit by frequent roadside bombings.

Instead of referring to the enemy derisively as "terrorists" - as they used to - Marines and soldiers now give the insurgents a measure of respect by calling them "mujahedeen," an Arabic term meaning "holy warrior" that became popular during the Afghan guerrilla campaign against the Soviet Union.

Military commanders in Anbar hope to combat the insurgency through a multi-pronged strategy of political progress, reconstruction and training Iraqi security forces.

However, there's been less political progress in Anbar than in Iraq's Kurdish north and Shiite Muslim south, the violence there has stymied progress in rebuilding towns destroyed in the fighting and Iraqi forces are still a long way from being able to secure the province.

U.S. officials hope that a strong turnout in national elections in December will turn people away from violence. They expressed similar hopes before last January's elections. However, while those elections were a success in many parts of the nation, in Anbar the turnout was in the single digits.

"Some of the Iraqis say they want to vote but they're worried there'll be a bomb at the polling station," Marine Capt. James Haunty, 27, of Columbus, Ohio, said recently. "It's a legitimate fear, but I always tell them, just trust me."

Less than five minutes after Haunty spoke, near the town of Hit, a roadside bomb down the street produced a loud boom followed by a funnel of black smoke.

Many Sunnis in Anbar say they'll vote against the constitution in October, as they've felt excluded from the process of drafting the document.

While fighting has badly damaged many towns and precluded widespread reconstruction efforts, Marines in Fallujah are working to make that city a centerpiece of rebuilding. Fallujah residences sustained some $225 million in damage last November during a U.S. assault aimed at clearing the city of insurgents, according to Marine Lt. Col. Jim Haldeman, who oversees the civil military operations center in Fallujah.

Homeowners have received 20 percent of that amount to rebuild homes, and will get the next 20 percent in the coming weeks, Haldeman said. Families are walking the streets once again and shops have reopened. The sound of hammers is constant, and men line the streets mixing concrete and laying bricks out to dry.

Even so, of the 250,000 population before the fighting, just 150,000 residents have returned. And the insurgency has come back to the area.

Iraqis are still a long way from being able to provide their own security in Anbar. As with much of the province, Fallujah has no functioning police force. Police in Ramadi are confined to two heavily fortified stations, after insurgents destroyed or seriously damaged eight others.

The Iraqi national guard, heralded last year as the answer to local security, was dissolved because of incompetence and insurgent infiltration, as was the guard's predecessor, the civil defense corps.

The new Iraqi army has participated in all the Marines' recent sweeps in Anbar, in a limited way. While the Iraqi soldiers haven't thrown down their weapons and run, as they have in the past, many of them are still unable to operate without close U.S. supervision.

---

Tom Lasseter made regular trips to Fallujah in the summer and winter of 2003, interviewing tribal sheiks and residents there before the town fell to insurgents. He wrote extensively about the brewing unrest in the region, and the misunderstandings and conflicts between residents and the U.S. military units stationed there. During that period he was able to walk freely throughout the town with a translator.

He was last in Fallujah without military escort in early 2004 when insurgents overran the downtown police station. After men repeatedly pointed AK-47s at his chest and face and threatened to shoot him, he decided not to return except with American troops. Insurgents took over the town that April.

He reported on troops in Ramadi last summer, and wrote about the scaling back of patrols there and low morale among troops. He returned to Anbar province in November, when U.S. troops retook Fallujah in the worst urban combat since Vietnam. For this series of stories, Lasseter spent three weeks in the province this month embedded with Marine and Army units in Haqlaniya, Haditha, Hit, Ramadi and Fallujah.

Where the hell did Iraq get in this?

I have never voted for Bush.

Yell your smacktard crap in someone else's direction.

 

[Moonbeam]

A tip for liberals. If you think of God as the utimate good you won't get far opposing Him because you will be working against the deepest hidden truth and every soul knows this truth.

 

[johnnobts]

sigh...

there is a big difference b/w gravity and evolutionary theory. the theory of gravity has reached "law" status in the realm of science. it has been studied and studied for hundreds and hundreds of years, and has been established through verifiable expirimentation.

contrary to what some of you wish, evolution has not reached "law" status. it is a theory. whether or not evolution will reach law status will take a LONG time. why? well, micro-evolution (evolution on the small scale within a set species like insects) may be verifiable, but macro-evolution (from ape to man via hundreds or thousands of "missing links," which almost all seem to be missing), in order to be truly tested and proven as a theory and perhaps reach law status, according to evolutionary theorists, will take thousands and thousands of years. macro-evolution is all truly hypothetical, and is not so much rooted in deductive reasoning as it is rooted in abductive reasoning (there's a big difference folks).

this all being said, i personally don't thin ID should be taught in biology classes, though it deserves some mention in humanities, philosophy courses. moreover, biologists should be honest with their students in presenting the theory of evolution, reminding them its just that, a theory. nothing more, nothing less. it is also a theory that has every right to be challenged by other reputable biologists.

incidentally, newton did believe God to be the creator and sustainer of all things, and the principle of gravity being one of his designs for created order. snicker all you want, he's just isaac newton, the father of physics. and beliving in ID doesn't make you a Republican, or a moron for that matter. Heck, it doesn't even make you a Christian.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Burdett added: "Gravity?which is taught to our children as a law?is founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force. Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."

Funny read, to lighten the mood at the expense of real life morons.

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4133&n=2

The Onion spares nobody:thumbsup::laugh:

If people want to believe in ID that's their perogative but it shouldn't be taught in Public Schools until there can be some type of evidence to back it up. I also wouldn't call those who believe in ID morons as it is actually a pretty ingenious way to qualify their Creationist beliefs.

 

[Kadarin]

Slashdot recently ran a story about how the Earth's core is spinning faster than the Earth. Here's a post in regards to this that is relevant, giving credit to Slashdot user "Smidge204":

Dear kzinti;

Current scientific theories on this subject are, at best, incomplete. I would like to offer an equally plausible alternative theory; Intelligent Spinning.

The Intelligent Spinner carefully regulates the speed at which the Earth's inner core rotates relative to the crust, thus regulating with great accuracy the strength and shape of the Earth's protective magnetic shield. Since this shield is so vital to life on this planet, it is inconceivable that it exists merely by chance. Therefore, we can conclude that the Intelligent Spinner was put in place by the Intelligent Designer, as one of the many mechanisms to protect His creation.

Extrapolating from this scenario, we arrive at the conclusion that the magnetic field reversal is all part of the Intelligent Designer's plan. Indeed, so-called "scientific" estimates have failed to predict another reversal. The Science-agenda advocates would have you believe that such reversals occur every 200,000 years, however in the same breath they also claim it has been over 780,000 years since the previous one. It is apparent that these scientists are simply making excuses for their flawed theories. Indeed, as we all know the Earth is only about 6,000 years old so the very notion of a 200,000 year cycle is absurd! My Intelligent Spinner theory predicts that the magnetic poles has (and will) weaken and eventually flip whenever the Intelligent Designer deems the time is right.

As you can see, my alternative theory explains the observed natural phenomena just as well as -- indeed, better than -- the current "scientific" theories of geology. I therefore assert that my theory is at least a viable alternative and feel that equal time should be given to its teaching in the classroom.

Thank you for your time;
=Smidge=

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

:thumbsup: @ TheOnion.

 

[cquark]

Originally posted by: johnnobts
there is a big difference b/w gravity and evolutionary theory. the theory of gravity has reached "law" status in the realm of science. it has been studied and studied for hundreds and hundreds of years, and has been established through verifiable expirimentation.

contrary to what some of you wish, evolution has not reached "law" status. it is a theory. whether or not evolution will reach law status will take a LONG time.

I've got a PhD in physics and I'm a working scientist, yet I've never heard about this idea of promoting a theory to a law. Why? Because it doesn't happen.. Law is simply an archaic term that means the same thing as theory, which is why it's Newton's Law of Gravitation but it's Einstein's Theory of General Relativity that replaced it.

why? well, micro-evolution (evolution on the small scale within a set species like insects) may be verifiable, but macro-evolution (from ape to man via hundreds or thousands of "missing links," which almost all seem to be missing)

You might want to crack open a modern book on evolution, which will show you the fallacy of the "missing link" argument and point out that fossils are only one of the three major sources of evidence for evolution.

incidentally, newton did believe God to be the creator and sustainer of all things, and the principle of gravity being one of his designs for created order. snicker all you want, he's just isaac newton, the father of physics. and beliving in ID doesn't make you a Republican, or a moron for that matter. Heck, it doesn't even make you a Christian.

Isaac Newton didn't believe in ID, for the simple reason that ID is only a few years old. Believing in ID may not make you a moron, but it does make you foolish, because you've been deceived by a slick PR campaign. I can respect believers in theistic evolution and I certainly have no problem with pre-Darwin scientists being creationists, but I've got nothing but contempt for purveyors of deceit like the ID movement leaders.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: alchemize
real life morons.
ID fuknuts
damn Repulican Conservative hicks

Such quality posters...

I don't think the Republican party has a monopoly on stupidity (although their leadership doesn't do much refute the theory). Still, two out of three ain't bad.

Funny stuff. :laugh:

 

[dannybin1742]

biologists should be honest with their students in presenting the theory of evolution, reminding them its just that, a theory. nothing more, nothing less

you morons need to realise it's a theory backed by a mountain of evidence which no other theory has, not ID, not any form of creation

you people keep missing that point

evolution is the basis for biology, i'm tired of this "its just a theory" crap