Is going from an FX-62 @ 3.01 to a 6400 black an upgrade?

[ta8689]

My FX-62 is at 3.01, idle 35* C on air. I could probably go higher, but is it worth it to get a 6400 black? Do they overclock well?

 

[GundamF91]

Why would you do that? Are you feeling there's not enough processing power? What are you using the system for? With your 2x8800GTS, you should be able to do just about anything out there. If you need more power for video processing, you should go get the Phenom9500, it's only $200 and you get 4 cores vs. 2 with x2 6400.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: GundamF91
Why would you do that? Are you feeling there's not enough processing power? What are you using the system for? With your 2x8800GTS, you should be able to do just about anything out there. If you need more power for video processing, you should go get the Phenom9500, it's only $200 and you get 4 cores vs. 2 with x2 6400.

+1

 

[ta8689]

Ive heard that for single applications and such (like games) that the quads dont perform as well (at least the AMD phenoms). Is this true? I'd be all for a quad core system if it really is faster. Would a phenom 9500 outperform an FX62 (overclocked maybe a bit further than I have)?

 

[GundamF91]

That's because most games don't take advantage of dualcore or quad core. As new games come out, more will support multithreading, and then dual and quad will truly shine.

 

[ta8689]

So then I guess my question now is, Should I go quad now, or wait until those apps do support multithreading to upgrade?

 

[Dravic]

That all depends on your usage patterns


lots of multitasking, having too many apps open slowing things down? then then dual/duaq core will boost you desktop performance.
lots of video editing and processing (not games)? same as above


I would go for it. It will change they way you work with you computer on a day to day basis, You have enough ram to be able to leave apps open even while gaming on a multi core cpu and have no slowdown. But be careful, leaving all those apps open are going to make you want to go dual screen.


for example; I run Wow on 1 screen (windowed but maximized with window no border), and in the other screen, i have web browsers, wowwiki/thottbot, vent, IM, task manager, youtube... etc

closing apps and or alt-tabing is largely a thing of the past with dual cores and dual screens.

 

[ta8689]

well my FX-62 is DUAL core, im just wondering about QUAD core now. I know duals are better than singles, and have seen the performance increase. Just quads i'm wondering about. And I would like to see game performance increase as well. If I had a quad core overclocked to just as high as my FX, would it run things like games as fast?

 

[error8]

You could go quad, but not on the AMD side. That level 3 cache bug killed Phenom right from the start. I would say to keep your FX until the new Phenom stepping is out, and don't upgrade to the 6400+ because the performance increase is minimal. If you want a 6400+ just overclock your cpu another 200 mhz, these unlocked multipliers are so sweet.

 

[error8]

Games are more dependent of your video card, and seeing that you have a 22 inch LCD, I'm guessing that you are using high resolutions when gaming, so the CPU has a very low impact on the overall performance. I wouldn't change anything in your system , it looks just perfect as it is. I really don't know if there is just one game out there that takes advantage of a quad core, not even Crysis. So a quad doesn't give you an important boost in performance, and if we speak about the Phenom, you could have a performance drop with it from your current dual core.

 

[Duvie]

well clock for clock C2D's had a 20% advantage of X2 line of processors...That being said if you were willing and able to get 3ghz out of an FX chip then 3.4-3.6ghz can be in your cards with a C2D....That would be 15-20% SPEED ADVANTAGE, as well as 20% advantage clock for clock....so I wouldn't say that is minimal....

Lets keep the facts real here ppl....

That being said I dont think it is the best route economically though

Is the FX62 an AM2 chip? if so the new phenoms makes more economic sense though prowess may not...

 

[Dravic]

ahh didnt even notice it was dual core...

in that case i would wait for a better quad core stepping.. I'd wait till you can at least get the same single threaded speed, or it's going to seem like a downgrade in SOME apps.


until quad core optimized software starts to show up, and you can OC a phenom to ~3.0-3.5ghz i would wait. Otherwise your not going to see much improvement.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I don't think that there is an AM2 upgrde out there that is worth the money if you already ahve an A64 dual core at 3.0+ ghz. You could spend some money and hope you get lucky enough to get an A64 dual core that overclocks to 3.0+, but how much is a few hundred mhz worth to you? I doubt it'd be all that noticable.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: ta8689
My FX-62 is at 3.01, idle 35* C on air. I could probably go higher, but is it worth it to get a 6400 black? Do they overclock well?

I think you could throw a blanket - a small one -over the FX-62, X2 6400+, and the Phenom from a performance standpoint. And the extra cores on the Phenom (especially with the bug fix slowdown) is not gonna makeup for the clockspeed disadvantage in parallel threads.

And that's one fine rig yah got . . .

 

[ta8689]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: ta8689
My FX-62 is at 3.01, idle 35* C on air. I could probably go higher, but is it worth it to get a 6400 black? Do they overclock well?

I think you could throw a blanket - a small one -over the FX-62, X2 6400+, and the Phenom from a performance standpoint. And the extra cores on the Phenom (especially with the bug fix slowdown) is not gonna makeup for the clockspeed disadvantage in parallel threads.

And that's one fine rig yah got . . .

Heh, thanks.

I think I'll just wait then. Now I've just gotta overclock this thing a bit further. Anybody know a good set of settings for me to start with for oh say, 3.2Ghz?

 

[taltamir]

you want to replace an overclocked FX62 @ 3.01Ghz with a 6400 black edition @ 3.2ghz?

Those two are completely identical, except the black edition is an F3 stepping of the windsor core... You are looking at maybe a 5% speed boost at most.

The phenoms are really slower then what you have right now... unless you run a program that is optimized for 4 cores, in which case they are a little faster. They would be a downgrade for you.

Your only upgrade path right now is intel.