is Geforce 2 2d really that bad?????????

[trez2k3]

im think about getting either the msi g2 gts or the leadtek one but the only thing hold me back is people complaining about how bad the 2d is i even heard one guy looking at it too long could make you go blind! is it really that bad i do alot of i surfing and gaming and i dont want bad 2d tia

 

[RobsTV]

If it was that bad they wouldn't and could be the #1 selling performance card now could they?
Also, if it was that bad, the company would be getting sued all the time. Doesn't happen.

With "some" GF2 manufacturers combined with "certain specific" monitors, at ultra high resolutions, (1600x1200), some have said 2d looked terrible. However for most, the 2d is "as good or better" than the highly rated 3dfx Voodoo 3 cards, while not as good as Matrox and many say not as good as Radeon.

EDIT
This is my first nVidia card in years, and I've had it for about 8 months now.
Prior to that, I used 3dfx cards, and primarily used a V3 for more than 18 months.
Before the V3 was a nVidia Riva 128 with a V2 to handle the 3d.
The Visiontek GF2 GTS is just as good if not better than the V3 was, at all resolutions.

 

[Zipp]

My MSI Geforce2 2D isn't bad but it certainly aint great in my opinion. At 1076x768,it's a notch below my old Voodoo 3 and I really didn't think it would bother me at first but it kind of does now. I picked up a Kyro 2 to compare it with and I must say it has better 2d than the Geforce and about the same as the Voodoo 3 3000.I've talked to other people that use the Geforce line and they say they are happy with the 2D but they have never used anything else but Nvidia cards.

 

[Rand]

The 2D quality isnt "horrible" and you can't live with it but there are much better 2D cards out there. At 1024x768 it's generally on par with most other cards, it's not until you start getting to 1280x1024 or above that it truly becomes bothersome IMHO.

At resolutions like 1600x1200 it starts to border on extremely annoying though.

 

[tjdavis1138]

Just installed my MSI Starforce Pro and after using a Radeon card for a couple of months. The Geforce card has about the same 2d as any other card I have used over the years. Tnt,tnt2,v3....

It's not that bad, but the Radeon card is definately better. ATI is in a league of their own when it comes to 2d quality in my opinion. I haven't used Matrox cards since the mystique so I can't comment on those.

Bottom line, on my 17" monitor I'll be keeping the G2 card in this machine and installing the radeon in the kids. When I upgrade to a bigger monitor I may be swapping them back???

 

[airmax]

I just upgrade my computer from Voodoo3 3000 to MSI Starforce Pro 8831, I am running at 1280X1024 with 32bit color and with a Viewsonic ps790 monitor, I just installed it tonite and briefly use it for 15 minutes, I didn't see a major difference when compare to my voodoo3, but I think it is much better than TNT (Diamond Viper 550). Initailly I was hold back on this purchase base on the experience of the Viper), However I just upgrade my CPU (AMD 1.3Ghz) and seems my voodoo3 showing the aging of technology. Well my final word is it really worth every pennies of that $142 for that 8831 (from newegg of course)

 

[Boogak]

It's still usable at 1280x960 on my 21" Trinitron, but my eyes seem to blur up the text after prolonged use. If you're running at 1024x768 and under, you don't have anything to worry about.

 

[Toro 45]

MSI Geforce2 Pro running at 1024x768 looks fine,I used a Radeon & Voodoo3 before I'm seeing no difference.
Toro

 

[heedory]

i use asus V7700 at home until 1024x1028 V7700 is perfect.
but at 1600x1200 text is blurr
have a difficulty in reading text on black background.

 

[BFG10K]

1280 x 1024 is just fine on my Gigabyte GF2 GTS.

 

[freefoo]

Have a Geforce II Ultra (Hercules Prophet II Ultra) and 2d is VERY bad at any resolution beyond 1024x768 (1280 x 1024 is the recommended resolution on my 19" monitor). I'm also stuck with the Ultra's 'rolling band' problem. 85Hz is very unstable, have to use 100Hz instead.

It's the worst piece of crap I ever bought and will be probably the last crap I bought from Hercules/Guillemot. I contacted customer support (Belgium) and they deny everything. They're willing to exchange the card but then I'm stuck the same piece of crap.

I hope the GF3 from Elsa is better because I'm looking to buy one...

 

[KIAman]

Sorta weird and maybe a coincidence, but my 2d performance has taken a huge step up on my MSI-Geforce2GTS. I used to have an 80mm fan right on top of it blowing air directly at it for no reason. I thought i was going to oc the card, but i never did. Well, recently i installed a new HD and i took off the fan so i can have easier access. Now, without the fan, i can easily see a huge increase in my 2D quality.
High res past 1280x1024, letters used to be a bit blurred, not too bad, but enough to notice, but now it is crystal clear! I don't know if the electromagnetic radiation from the fan affects the 2D filter on the Vid card, but im not putting that fan back on now. Of course, i still have the stock chip fan on the card, but no 80mm fan on it.
Anybody have thoughts/theories on this? I think tomorrow im going to put the fan back just to see if that was the factor and i will get back to u guys.

 

[V]

<< Have a Geforce II Ultra (Hercules Prophet II Ultra) and 2d is VERY bad at any resolution beyond 1024x768 (1280 x 1024 is the recommended resolution on my 19&quot; monitor). I'm also stuck with the Ultra's 'rolling band' problem. 85Hz is very unstable, have to use 100Hz instead. >>


Can you monitor handle it? If so, why did you run it lower than what it can handle?

 

[KIAman]

Ok, i put the 80mm fan back on and tested the quality of the letters, i wish i had a digital camera so i could show this to u people. There is a difference with and without the fan. It was the factor for my 2D.
My only thought about this is that maybe the 2D filters on these cards are very sensitive to to other PC components. I have since moved all of my PCI cards down furthest away from the vid card. With fan=blurred, without fan=clear. Not the stock fan, but my 80mm fan i put on it.