Is FSAA supposed to look like this?

[clicknext]

I've been the owner of a Radeon8500 for almost 2 years now, and I havn't ever in that time tried the FSAA. Well I did that today with counter-strike in openGL. 1024x768, 4X FSAA, 16 Aniso. It looked like crap. Everything seemed to be blurry, the text was all fuzzy, and there was still some visible aliasing on the edges of... well, everything. I don't see what's so good about this...

 

[nick1985]

no way. ati image quality rocks.


on a serious note, try updating to the latest drivers

 

[Schadenfroh]

it did not do it on my v00d005

 

[clicknext]

I'm on the latest drivers. Catalyst 2.4.

 

[FacelessNobody]

I've tried CS on the Radeon 8500 series with AA. I don't know why it's blurry, it was for me as well. Smoothvision 1 must suck at running CS in OpenGL. Smoothvision 2 on my 9700 Pro is much, much better.

 

[squidman]

weird. i only turn aa to 2x - that way, the jaggies (virtually) perish.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

1) Install the latest Catalysts - v3.4 IIRC
2) Try 2XAA 4XAF, or you'll get raped when someone throws a smoke
3) Get the ATi-specific patch for CS

- M4H

 

[squidman]

theres an ati patch for CS??

 

[yhelothar]

clicknext.. you using opengl? i'm having the same problem.. looks like shit..

what os are you using?

 

[Pete]

I'm pretty sure supersampling AA like on the 8500 will blur text unless the app has AA in mind (which most apps as old as HL/CS don't). Cards like the GF3/4/4MX/FX+ and Radeon 9500+ use multisampling, which doesn't affect textures, only polygon edges.

 

[ScrewFace]

Nothing's ever going to look as good as 3dfx's RGSS 4x AA IMHO. I think ATI was new at the AA game with the 8500 so, when I had one, I never bothered with it. Besides, playing games at 1280x1024 or 1600x1200 negates, really, the need for AA but not AF. Just enjoy your 8500. It's a great card for today and tomorrow.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: clicknext
I've been the owner of a Radeon8500 for almost 2 years now, and I havn't ever in that time tried the FSAA. Well I did that today with counter-strike in openGL. 1024x768, 4X FSAA, 16 Aniso. It looked like crap. Everything seemed to be blurry, the text was all fuzzy, and there was still some visible aliasing on the edges of... well, everything. I don't see what's so good about this...

Does that mean they're cheating by sacrificing image quality for better performance with those settings enabled? :evil:

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: clicknext
I've been the owner of a Radeon8500 for almost 2 years now, and I havn't ever in that time tried the FSAA. Well I did that today with counter-strike in openGL. 1024x768, 4X FSAA, 16 Aniso. It looked like crap. Everything seemed to be blurry, the text was all fuzzy, and there was still some visible aliasing on the edges of... well, everything. I don't see what's so good about this...

Does that mean they're cheating by sacrificing image quality for better performance with those settings enabled? :evil:

lol

 

[Jeff7]

Can you post a screenshot of this? Check the image too, to make sure the saved file looks like the game. I've taken screenshots already, and they look totally different than what the monitor had showed me in the game.

 

[moogle077]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
1) Install the latest Catalysts - v3.4 IIRC
2) Try 2XAA 4XAF, or you'll get raped when someone throws a smoke
3) Get the ATi-specific patch for CS

- M4H

Why would smoke kill you?

 

[daniel1113]

Smoke = lag

 

[spanky]

with the 8500... 2x aa & 16x af is just perrrrrfect.

 

[DieHardware]

Originally posted by: clicknext
I'm on the latest drivers. Catalyst 2.4.

lol

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: daniel1113
Smoke = lag

not on my computer... seriously... so many people say this is a problem with their's... I can throw smoke all day in CS and run through the middle of it, throw grenades in it, spin around inside the cloud of smoke, and the FPS rarely drop below 80

 

[zsouthboy]

Radeon 8500 = supersampling = blurry text if the app doesn't know about AA...e.g CS, UT, etc. etc.

Same AA as on my vanilla Radeon DDR, heh.

Turn up aniso to max, leave AA off.

 

[wicktron]

Half Life / CS is the only game that this happens in (in my experience). I don't think the engine is built to handle any form of Anti Aliasing.

 

[yhelothar]

yeah Anisotropic Filtering looks blurry on ati cards when they use opengl... really sucks..
here's a screenie of my 9700pro on quake3 arena, with 8x AF

EDIT: LINK FIXED

 

[Viper96720]

Linkie no work