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Is Fraud Tolerated On Ebay?
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it is not tolerated but on things like that there is not a quailty control program that is far reaching enough to check every auction.
DrPizza
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I think their policy is "if no one complains, we're not going to bother with it... we're making our money either way. Then, we're making more money off paypal fees."
ebay is based on a big scam, so their not going to enforce anything that makes them big money
ebay is so freaking rich, my mouth is drooling now!!!:disgust:
ebay is so freaking rich, my mouth is drooling now!!!:disgust:
Who are you to say they're lying?
If that second one is true and he's pushing 580HP, it doesen't seem outlandish.
Yeah, the coeff of sliding friction of gel coated, painted fiberglass gliding over water is pretty darn low.
Look at it this way: 580HP is more than enough to push any car to 100+ MPH, and each boat is smaller and weighs a good deal less.
Look at it this way: 580HP is more than enough to push any car to 100+ MPH, and each boat is smaller and weighs a good deal less.
I'm getting sick of all those HONG KONG sellers selling illegal knock offs w/ high shipping costs...
He never claimed how, when or where it can reach 100MPH...maybe when it gets pushed off a cliff or pulled behind a Dodge SRT 10 are the only instances where 100MPH is attainable.
My father used to have a 38 footer progression that had twin 225's, and it pushed 100 very easily (I think we got it to ~115, and that was with 2 fairly large people on it (at the time, 200 for me, and around 360 for my father), and around 130 for my mother, and 80 for my brother). So I am not gonna say that they are lying, or telling the truth, but the boat my father had was much larger and heavier, and had about equal HP, and pushed 115.
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Hard to say since he doesn't list the cam or compression ratio. It is a naturally aspirated motor with a single carb. From my experience, I would say that it definitely doesn't go over 90 and probably closer to 80. It is a fairly fast hull.
One of my friends races and his last boat was a light lay up in a Daytona hull. He had 1200 HP and did 133 in the 1/4. The boat was naturally aspirated and ran a tunnel ram with two carbs. His lake boat was about 800 HP and would do about 95 (or 89 with him and I in it) and 115 on nitrous with just him in it.
His newest lake boat runs 123 without nitrous on a blown motor with 3 carbs. It a 25' Carrera.
I realized your username...I guess I don't know anything about boats, but hey, a car with 580HP could cruise along at 100MPH without even breaking a sweat!
75-100MPH isn't very fast, what the hell would be the point in 580HP if that was the top speed? I guess you'd get there real fast....
This isn't necessarily fraud, though..... may be shady, but it's not fraud...
Damn.. :Q
So it takes some serious power to move a boat, eh?
Wait, you're talking about the quarter mile... what about top speed?
my chicks little brother is always looking up mac stuff on ebay.
there are so many macs on their listed with OS X that are way to old to successfully run it but they sell them with it.
there are so many macs on their listed with OS X that are way to old to successfully run it but they sell them with it.
Define old. My gf has a 333mhz iBook running OSX and she's completely satisfied with it. For what she does, internet/email/Word/mp3 it's hard to justify anything faster.
Ebay states that they are just a VENUE and not responsible for false claims. However, if someone is breaking the law they will pull the auction. Since there are millions of auctions running at any given time, they call themselves a 'self policing community', meaning that they rely on users informing them when the rules/laws are broken.
Vic
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It ain't the friction, it's the displacement of the water by the hull. Water = 8.6 lbs./gallon, a gallon = ~1 cubic foot. In other words, it's relatively heavy and requires a lot of energy to displace, and you're displacing tons of it as you go (and the faster you go, the more your're displacing).
580hp might get you to 100 mph in a very small and fast boat, but no way to 148 mph as that seller claims. Plus, read the engine specs, this guy is a complete liar. A single-carb Holley 750 on a 454 isn't gonna get you to 580 horses no matter what's inside. There's just not enough airflow. That's a 450hp engine at best.
Uhm, once you are over a certain speed, the boat displaces less. When riding in any boat, at a certain speed it will plane on tope of the water. In a race designed boat, what effectively happens is the entire hull is skimming on top of the water, and only the prop and prop assembly are submerged. There are boats that are designed solely to displace and do not plane (fishing boats), but we are talking racing boats, or boats designed to go very fast. For example, once my boat gets on to plane, we are able to throttle down because it takes less energy to maintain the planing speed once you reach it.
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I'm aware of that, but even when planing, you're still displacing water (or where'd that wake come from?) and the amount of that displacement is still going to increase as you accelerate. Planing speed is usually not that high, around 40mph, and that's a long ways from 100 or 148 mph in a boat.
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