Is Fallout 3 still using the engine from Oblivion?

[Jumpem]

I want to play at 1920x1200 with everything maxed.

 

[Schadenfroh]

It uses the same engine, but I imagine there have been a significant amount of tweaks / enhancements / additions since Oblivion came out.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
It uses the same engine, but I imagine there have been a significant amount of tweaks / enhancements / additions since Oblivion came out.

Which means performance will be lower than the Oblivion engine was. I think an 8800GTX will still be powerful enough to run the game with more than adequate details though.

 

[Frodolives]

I'm sure I read other references to the engine changes, but the only mention I find on hand atm is from a Game Informer interview of last year where they only said "This is an evolved version of the engine that ran the graphics of Oblivion, but everything from the animation of monsters to the dramatic lighting of different environments hsa been designed from the ground up for the ruined landscapes of the Fallout universe."

I'm pretty sure I also heard them refer to it as "heavily modified" or something to that effect. Anyway, it's too bad they still haven't posted specs, but the Bethesda forums for Fallout is supposedly going to post them immediately upon the announcement, as I believe it mentions in this "official" thread. http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsfor...x.php?showtopic=882436

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Ugh, I hate Oblivion's engine. It looks decent, but it still doesn't run completely smoothly on my 8800GT 2 1/2 years after the game came out.

 

[Zenoth]

I hope that they got rid of or at least greatly enhanced the very limited capabilities of the GameBryo's current status in Oblivion to render large areas with its very annoyingly small cells system. If the loading of data as the player moves can be as smoothly and efficiently done than in Crysis or FarCry 2 (or similar to/comparable to) then I'll certainly be happy, otherwise I think I'll just pass on that one.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: Zenoth
I hope that they got rid of or at least greatly enhanced the very limited capabilities of the GameBryo's current status in Oblivion to render large areas with its very annoyingly small cells system. If the loading of data as the player moves can be as smoothly and efficiently done than in Crysis or FarCry 2 (or similar to/comparable to) then I'll certainly be happy, otherwise I think I'll just pass on that one.

Yep, the cell system is easily the most obnoxious part of the engine. A nice 5 seconds of horrible stuttering every 30 seconds as I run across the countryside really smooths out the experience. I mean, Crysis may eat your machine and spit it out in a crumpled heap, but it doesn't stutter on loading - it just runs slow.

 

[Dumac]

Bethesda has never been the best at optimization. Morrowind still takes way more resources than it should.

 

[40sTheme]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Ugh, I hate Oblivion's engine. It looks decent, but it still doesn't run completely smoothly on my 8800GT 2 1/2 years after the game came out.

Whoa, somethings wrong then. I ran Oblivion w/ Qarl's TP3 and various other graphical upgrades and 16xQ AA just fine on my 8800GT.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: 40sTheme
Whoa, somethings wrong then. I ran Oblivion w/ Qarl's TP3 and various other graphical upgrades and 16xQ AA just fine on my 8800GT.

He didn't say run it, he said completely smooth, as in flawless, absolutely 0 hitching. Some people are picky like that and some can overlook hitching. Not that it's a bad thing, it's just it doesn't affect others for whatever reason.

 

[40sTheme]

I didn't overlook hitching. It hitched every once in a while when it needed to load (every 5 mins or so while walking outside). Not bad, IMO, with only 2GB of RAM.

 

[XMan]

9600GT SLI?

I could run Oblivion pretty well with the texture pack . . . hopefully it will be good enough for FO3.

 

[PiMpY]

I'm guessing my AGP 7600gt with 2.4ghz quad will not be enough to run this game at high res.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: 40sTheme

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Ugh, I hate Oblivion's engine. It looks decent, but it still doesn't run completely smoothly on my 8800GT 2 1/2 years after the game came out.

Whoa, somethings wrong then. I ran Oblivion w/ Qarl's TP3 and various other graphical upgrades and 16xQ AA just fine on my 8800GT.

I mean it tends to dip into the 20's at times. I have a fair number of mods installed and OB is very CPU demanding. My 3700+ might be holding me back. Although I do remember it running smoother with no mods. And my computer is also horribly bogged down with crap - I need to do a reformat and reinstall of XP at some point. I ran defrag and it couldn't defrag a ridiculous number of files.

 

[Pepsei]

meh...some bastard leaked the 360 version already....

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
meh...some bastard leaked the 360 version already....

<game company exec>It is ok, no one will download the leaked 360 copy. The PC is the only platform where piracy is a problem.</game company exec>

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Pepsei
meh...some bastard leaked the 360 version already....

<game company exec>It is ok, no one will download the leaked 360 copy. The PC is the only platform where piracy is a problem.</game company exec>

Granted, it is a lot harder to mod your xbox to play pirated games than it is to download them to your computer. But I bet a lot more people do it than the devs suspect.

 

[Ultralight]

System Specs as listed at Gamespy as of Today 10/9/08:


Minimum System Requirements:

Windows XP/Vista
1GB System RAM (XP)/ 2GB System RAM (Vista)
2.4 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 256MB RAM (NVIDIA 6800 or better/ATI X850 or better)


Recommended System Requirements:

Intel Core 2 Duo processor
2 GB System RAM
Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 512MB RAM (NVIDIA 8800 series, ATI 3800 series)


* I have the video card and system RAM; I just hope my Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.0 GHz (socket 939)will be okay.

 

[Pepsei]

i for one, hope a lot more people pirate the console copy just for the selfish reason that i prefer the pc platform for games (rpg)

 

[imported_Imp]

I was actually able to run Oblivion at medium and 1680x1050 on my A64 3200+ and 7600gt. Hope I can run at least low-med for Fallout. Regardless, view distance and grass will be the first thing I kill.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
i for one, hope a lot more people pirate the console copy just for the selfish reason that i prefer the pc platform for games (rpg)

Me too. It might show that the PC (which still has more sales than consoles individually) is just the scapegoat.

 

[Throckmorton]

Why would they use such a terrible engine?

 

[450R]

What about it is terrible?

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: 450R
What about it is terrible?

Gamebryo (at least the version in Oblivion) is based on a very crappy cell system. The outdoors was divided into little cells that were IIRC a few hundred feet on each side. This made it so that as you're running through the woods, every 30 seconds or so you get a big nasty stutter due to the machine loading a new cell. The game didn't run terribly well considering it was only supposed to be loading the info for that cell too. Also, the cell system created a lot of bugs and modder headaches.

Crysis, for comparison, just has everything in 1 area and it loads things as they get closer.