Nobody is right 100% of the time. So it's a given that you will be wrong sometimes. When those times occur, is it a sign of weakness, or somehow make you less of a man, to admit it?
Is failure to admit to being wrong, failure to apologize, a sign of weakness?
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What does this have to do with politics or news? I think this should be discussed in the OT forum.
Zephyr
Zephyr
If you're wrong and kids are dying it's time to DO something about it. FVCK the apologies.
Rumsfeld and Bush would be saying mea culpas and apologies and doing nothing else once they started. Furthermore, I would have to dig deep to accept either of their apologies. Maybe it's in me, but probably not. They both disgust me, and Rumsfeld more than Bush.
-Robert
Rumsfeld and Bush would be saying mea culpas and apologies and doing nothing else once they started. Furthermore, I would have to dig deep to accept either of their apologies. Maybe it's in me, but probably not. They both disgust me, and Rumsfeld more than Bush.
-Robert
Very good point. I will expand on my post from a few days ago, and say that every Muslim member of this forum should apologize for Saddam Hussein's and Al Qaeda's actions.
Zephyr
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Gaard, I think it is like you say, a given to be wrong, even a lot..
Sometimes to be wrong in P&N is only the opinion of the person wanting to make the case
that another individual is wrong.
Sometimes to be wrong in P&N is to use logic to support your own opinion, even if your logic
cannot be proven.
Sometimes to be wrong in P&N is a tool to defeat an equally wrong position or opinion.
Sometimes to be wrong in P&N is necessary to present a totally assanine view on your personal feelings
towards other posters.
Sometimes to be wrong in P&N is simply an accident, by reading something out of context, or taking
another persons post in a manner other than the way it was intended..
I am constantly wrong about things Gaard, and if you were to constantly point it out to satisfy your ego, that would make you less of a man with an obvious weakness.
Of course, we know that youaren't like that Gaard, not at all..
Your problem is more to do with not being openminded and seeing only through Gaards eyes....
Edit to add I held back with Orsorums challenge in mind.
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Does behaving as a non-official forum cop mean someone has a serious character flaw?
I'll be the first to admit that it bugs the crap out of me. Others can't stand reposts. Or have their own pet peeves. This is mine. When people run away, or just disappear after having their facts disproven without so much as an "Oh, my bad", it irritates me. Is it a character flaw of mine? Yeah....it shouldn't bother me, but it does. Something I'll have to live with.
I admited I made a mistake by leaving some comment out of what I wrote today.
That was a minute or two after a certain person whom shall remain nameless decided to resort to personal insults because of my mistake.
I'm a major hot head and don't ever forget so belieave me it took some effort to reply in a diplomatic manner and admit my mistake.
*brags* =p
That was a minute or two after a certain person whom shall remain nameless decided to resort to personal insults because of my mistake.
I'm a major hot head and don't ever forget so belieave me it took some effort to reply in a diplomatic manner and admit my mistake.
*brags* =p
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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Does behaving as a non-official forum cop mean someone has a serious character flaw?
I'll be the first to admit that it bugs the crap out of me. Others can't stand reposts. Or have their own pet peeves. This is mine. When people run away, or just disappear after having their facts disproven without so much as an "Oh, my bad", it irritates me. Is it a character flaw of mine? Yeah....it shouldn't bother me, but it does. Something I'll have to live with.
Correct me if I am wrong Gaard, but you just ran away from Zephyr106 question...
Blasphemer!!!
The GOP Gods will smite you where you stand!
Limbaugh, Hannity, Medved, Prager and the rest will p*ss on your ashes!!
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Thanks for letting me know I was wrong again, Gaard..Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Does behaving as a non-official forum cop mean someone has a serious character flaw?
I'll be the first to admit that it bugs the crap out of me. Others can't stand reposts. Or have their own pet peeves. This is mine. When people run away, or just disappear after having their facts disproven without so much as an "Oh, my bad", it irritates me. Is it a character flaw of mine? Yeah....it shouldn't bother me, but it does. Something I'll have to live with.
Correct me if I am wrong Gaard, but you just ran away from Zephyr106 question...
Maybe I was wrong here also
Then again, maybe I'm wrong..
I apologize for thinking conjur is such a partisan douchebag. I can't help myself. I'm sincerely sorry. Forgive me Gaard?
If a murderer said something like "what I am doing is obviously murder..." would that make it OK?
Not that I am equating posting off-topic with murder, but maybe they should be equal.
Zephyr
Unfortunately, Gaard, the whole phenomenon is all too common, and indicates a worldview based on acquired ideology rather that actual thought or observation. People believe in things they don't understand, and readily accept information represented as factual, provided it agrees with that world view. Having done so, admitting that such information is not factual would call their whole world view into question, demand a painful reassessment of their entire raison d'etre... We're not talking about reason, but rather religion. not rational thought, but rather emotional reaction, with intellectualized justifications. It's a form of Denial, and, as such, only has to make sense to the sufferer rather than anybody else.
Gaard:
Sorry, but I misinterpreted the focus of your question.
Anyway, if you don't expect anything from this forum you will occasionally be pleasantly surprised. Folks are going to make arguments that are devoid of reason and facts and stick to their guns regardless of anything we say.
Be pleased that most of the other posters following the thread get the point and realize that some wanker has again been owned and won't admit it.
-Robert
Sorry, but I misinterpreted the focus of your question.
Anyway, if you don't expect anything from this forum you will occasionally be pleasantly surprised. Folks are going to make arguments that are devoid of reason and facts and stick to their guns regardless of anything we say.
Be pleased that most of the other posters following the thread get the point and realize that some wanker has again been owned and won't admit it.
-Robert
Yea people like CAD and heatsurgeon have such enormous egos, that they are unwilling to admit they are ever wrong. Even when they have their backs cornered to the wall they still try to dodge and evade the truth.
SudheerAnne:
CAD is actually very good at admitting he is wrong. He almost always does so by:
1. Blaming Clinton;
2. Changing the subject;
3. Saying "carry on";
4. Or, some other non sequitur.
HS usually never replies. He's too busy in his life's work-removing the hearts from all humans, one at at time.
-Robert
CAD is actually very good at admitting he is wrong. He almost always does so by:
1. Blaming Clinton;
2. Changing the subject;
3. Saying "carry on";
4. Or, some other non sequitur.
HS usually never replies. He's too busy in his life's work-removing the hearts from all humans, one at at time.
-Robert
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