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Is Evo Ssd fixed now?

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shredz

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I bought an Evo 840 250gb but it's not delivered yet. I bought it on sale and impulse purchase and didn't know about the recent problems. Samsung issued a fix and also firmware update from what I could find out. Any brainy people able to say if it will be a solid fix? Or should I return it?
 
Yes, fixed. But as a rule, they're overpriced vs. the competition - people are paying for the name. But if you got a deal, you got a deal.
 
So the firmware fixes the drive going forward, confidently?

Yes, I did get a deal...$80 and it was an impulse purchase. I already have a Seagate 600 Pro as my boot drive but the low price tempted me to replace the Seagate with the Evo because I understand it's random writes are faster. The seagate would go into one of my kid's computers.
 
shredz said:
I bought an Evo 840 250gb but it's not delivered yet. I bought it on sale and impulse purchase and didn't know about the recent problems. Samsung issued a fix and also firmware update from what I could find out. Any brainy people able to say if it will be a solid fix? Or should I return it?
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Yes, its fixed. Whatever cooties the Evo had has been passed to the MX100 which is now a flakey piece of crap.
true story
 
shredz said:
I bought an Evo 840 250gb but it's not delivered yet. I bought it on sale and impulse purchase and didn't know about the recent problems. Samsung issued a fix and also firmware update from what I could find out. Any brainy people able to say if it will be a solid fix? Or should I return it?
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I had two 1TB 840 EVOs, the fix works, but it's just temporary......give it some time, and the performance would drop again, needing you to perform the process again, which in turn reduces the lifespan of the drive since more data is re-written

Stick to MLC SSDs only
 
berryracer said:
I had two 1TB 840 EVOs, the fix works, but it's just temporary......give it some time, and the performance would drop again, needing you to perform the process again, which in turn reduces the lifespan of the drive since more data is re-written

Stick to MLC SSDs only
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Do you have any actual proof showing that the performance degrades even after the firmware update and restoration process?
 
Hellhammer said:
Do you have any actual proof showing that the performance degrades even after the firmware update and restoration process?
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not on my hand chief as I got so frustrated when I saw it and took out the drives and sold em

but one example I could remember....

on my D: partition, I have a 25 GB folder which contains all my setup files for my programs

What I did notice is that after a while after the restoration (let's say one month) when I open that folder, the setup.exe files' icons would load in slow motion, as if it were a really slow HDD
 
I just bought a Samsung EVO 840 256 GB and am wondering if it’s worth transferring my OS from my Intel 320 to the Samsung. I’m not using this for anything beyond normal day to day and games.

With that in mind, I’m also wondering if I should run the Samsung Performance Restoration Software and use magician to run Rapid (which I hardly understand).
 
berryracer said:
I had two 1TB 840 EVOs, the fix works, but it's just temporary......give it some time, and the performance would drop again, needing you to perform the process again, which in turn reduces the lifespan of the drive since more data is re-written

Stick to MLC SSDs only
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If it's only temporary then why is mine still working fine?
 
berryracer said:
I had two 1TB 840 EVOs, the fix works, but it's just temporary......give it some time, and the performance would drop again, needing you to perform the process again, which in turn reduces the lifespan of the drive since more data is re-written

Stick to MLC SSDs only
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I applied the fix to my drive a few days after it came out on 15 October. My static files are still performing at full speed. It is also not possible to perform the process again.

This problem is not due to TLC NAND but due to a controller firmware bug. Sandisk have TLC drives on the market and their drives have not suffered this problem.
 
Coup27 said:
I applied the fix to my drive a few days after it came out on 15 October. My static files are still performing at full speed. It is also not possible to perform the process again.

This problem is not due to TLC NAND but due to a controller firmware bug. Sandisk have TLC drives on the market and their drives have not suffered this problem.
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And again . . . I never heard any of this until now, and the hits jus' keep on comin'!!

I haven't noticed any degraded performance on my only EVO, but it's the boot-system drive for my server. Not exactly a life-threatening performance issue.
 
What about us poor vanilla 840 bastards :|

Was all set to jump on an M550, until I discovered that its power-loss protection was not it was all cracked up to be. Got a good deal a few 840 Pros (~$205 ea), so switched to that instead.
 
WhoBeDaPlaya said:
What about us poor vanilla 840 bastards :|

Was all set to jump on an M550, until I discovered that its power-loss protection was not it was all cracked up to be. Got a good deal a few 840 Pros (~$205 ea), so switched to that instead.
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Keep your eyes on NeweggFlash.com, they have been selling "OEM" (sealed anti-static bag wrapper only) Intel 710 enterprise SSDs, for under $70 for 100GB. That may seem like a high price, especially for SATA2 performance, but they are rated for something like 50-60K P/E cycles, due to MLC-HET NAND. Warranty TBW is 500TB. I picked up a couple, and wished I could have picked up a couple more when they went on sale again, but I couldn't afford at the time. (Oh, the reason I mentioned that, they have enterprise power-protection too.)
 
pauldun170 said:
Yes, its fixed. Whatever cooties the Evo had has been passed to the MX100 which is now a flakey piece of crap.
true story
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So how about a link to this MX100 'flakey piece of crap' theory of yours.

I'm currently using one myself and sold well over a dozen of them at work with not a single issue.
 
Ok, so I think I will believe in samsung and keep this SSD. I will update the firmware immediately. Also, should I enable RAPID mode? I've been trying to get smart on it, but there seems to be some conflicting advice.
 
Coup27 said:
I applied the fix to my drive a few days after it came out on 15 October. My static files are still performing at full speed. It is also not possible to perform the process again.
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Uninstalling the Samsung Performance Restoration software (and rebooting) allows the software to be reinstalled and the process to be rerun.

BTW - The newest production 840 EVO SSDs are coming with the updated CB6Q firmware. Of course most sellers are still clearing out the old stock (BB6Q) that was amassed for BF and Christmas sales. 😉
 
daveybrat said:
So how about a link to this MX100 'flakey piece of crap' theory of yours.

I'm currently using one myself and sold well over a dozen of them at work with not a single issue.
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http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/MX100-will-not-boot-sometimes/td-p/158815

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/MX100-not-detected-in-BIOS-after-bluescreen/td-p/160115

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial...-bootable-media-found-quot/td-p/149110/page/6

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/MX100-512gb-BSOD/td-p/152662

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6634756

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/crucial-mx100-bug.4282/

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18608901&page=2

https://forum.acronis.com/forum/69224

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/Possible-compatibility-problem-with-new-MX100/td-p/152400

http://www.overclock.net/t/1519720/any-850-pro-issues
 
berryracer said:
I had two 1TB 840 EVOs, the fix works, but it's just temporary......give it some time, and the performance would drop again, needing you to perform the process again, which in turn reduces the lifespan of the drive since more data is re-written

Stick to MLC SSDs only
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And you know this because?
 
When you run the Evo fix, it refreshes all of the data on the drive. Because it takes about six months for the data to become stale and slower, and the fix was only released a month and a half ago, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that this firmware fixes everything for all of time. Samsung engineered a fix once they found out about the problem. But there is no way for them to test what these patched SSDs will be like a year from now (unless they have also engineered time travel).
 
Good point, and by the same token, no way to at this time, judge it a failure. Fair to say, it's wait and see..
 
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