Is everyone in florida crazy? Another shooting

[JKing106]

Then you should have learned in the 2nd grade that it will be your duty as an adult to own a firearm.

Your parents should have learned in Bible school that it was their duty to kill disobedient, incompetent, and otherwise disappointing children.

 

[blankslate]

Actually based on everything I've seen spidey post I am completely confident he will feel this guy should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Like it or not, spidey is right on the Zimmerman case even if he is a homophobic douche and a million other negative things. This case, you aren't going to find really a single person supporting this guy shooting the salesman and there's a good reason for that. Whereas a majority of Americans, as of last polling I saw, think Zimmerman was in the right.

Are you so sure?

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1233133.ece

it all depends...

Questionable cases

Whatever lawmakers' expectations, "stand your ground" arguments have resulted in freedom or reduced sentences for some unlikely defendants.

• An 18-year-old felon, convicted of cocaine and weapons charges, shot and wounded a neighbor in the stomach, then fled the scene and was involved in another nonfatal shootout two days later, according to police. He was granted immunity in the first shooting.

• Two men fell into the water while fighting on a dock. When one started climbing out of the water, the other shot him in the back of the head, killing him. He was acquitted after arguing "stand your ground."

• A Seventh-day Adventist was acting erratically, doing cartwheels through an apartment complex parking lot, pounding on cars and apartment windows and setting off alarms. A tenant who felt threatened by the man's behavior shot and killed him. He was not charged.

• A Citrus County man in a longstanding dispute with a neighbor shot and killed the man one night in 2009. He was not charged even though a witness and the location of two bullet wounds showed the victim was turning to leave when he was shot.

Even chasing and killing someone over a drug buy can be considered standing your ground.

Anthony Gonzalez Jr. was part of a 2010 drug deal that went sour when someone threatened Gonzalez with a gun. Gonzalez chased the man down and killed him during a high-speed gunbattle through Miami streets.

Before the "stand your ground'' law, Miami-Dade prosecutors would have had a strong murder case because Gonzalez could have retreated instead of chasing the other vehicle. But Gonzalez's lawyer argued he had a right to be in his car, was licensed to carry a gun and thought his life was in danger.

Soon after the filing of a "stand your ground'' motion, prosecutors agreed to a deal in which Gonzalez pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter and got three years in prison.

"The limitations imposed on us by the 'stand your ground' laws made it impossible for any prosecutor to pursue murder charges,'' Griffith of the Miami-Dade State Attorney's Office said at the time. "This is certainly a very difficult thing to tell a grieving family member.''

As for George Zimmerman I think most people want him to be judged by a jury. If he gets acquitted, I'll accept it and put Spidey on ignore because he'll be so happy about a 17 year old being shot it'll be disgusting.

 

[cybrsage]

Your parents should have learned in Bible school that it was their duty to kill disobedient, incompetent, and otherwise disappointing children.

The Law does not apply to the Goyim.

 

[Jaskalas]

The constitution says yes. It is called the Bill of Rights.

Really, I thought we were talking about crazies who shoot unarmed strangers at their front door. Pretty sure they lose their constitutional rights. The issue at hand is identifying them before they use their gun on someone.

You know... sort of like a competency test.

 

[alzan]

Did you see the quotes from Thomas Jefferson?

When the U.S. was founded, there was no provisioned military. It was the civilian militia that fought for our freedom.

Do you understand the concept of a citizen militia? That it is the duty of every able bodied male to answer to call to arms to protect the nation.

How are you supposed to do your duty as an able bodied adult if you do not own a firearm?

I agree with Jefferson on many things; I also know that the country is quite a bit different than it was 230+ years ago.

Sorry, there's no requirement to own a firearm. As far as there being a duty to own a firearm as part of a citizen militia, we now have a military to defend the nation. Your right to own a firearm cannot be infringed by the federal government, that doesn't mean it's your duty to own one.

 

[blankslate]

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Fuck you, sent from sunny FL!!

No sorry but our resident legal expert is right...
You have no moral authority when it comes to what he posted. This SYG controversy isn't the first time your state has fucked with the nation as a whole.

Probably won't be the last either.

 

[nobodyknows]

The last time I checked, we had a very well funded and very well equipped military. Who are you protecting yourself from?

Idiots like you perhaps?

 

[CptObvious]

I've lived in FL for close to 30 years and every year it gets more and more crappy. It's like living in the movie Idiocracy except in the present day.

 

[Gerle]

Guns make you paranoid. Like, it's such a burden to carry around a gun to no effect, that to justify this burden you see threats everywhere.

Like, no.

 

[Thump553]

This senseless tragedy is a direct result of Florida's peverse and hoplessly misguided so-called stand your ground statute. That law drastically needs real reforming or such senseless tragedies will result. As it presently stands it absolutely protects every gun killer who subjectively thought they were justified in use of deadly force.

And arming every citizen won't help, despite what the gun fetishers claim-it will just ramp up the useless and senseless deaths and destructions. It's time for the sensible members of the GOP to come off their dogma soapbox.

 

[Gerle]

hoplessly

Pretty funny from a bunny avatar.

 

[nobodyknows]

Too damn many laws already, why do we need more when we don't enforce the ones we have?

 

[Moonbeam]

Anybody want to take a guess at his party affiliation?

 

[TheVrolok]

I'm glad I'm out of that fucking state. This guy needs prison time.

 

[Lemon law]

I very much object to the thread title, that implies everyone in Florida crazy. Its just so the wrong song here.

Because like everywhere else 99.9% of the populace is pretty normal and sane. And what our problem is that, everywhere, there is always that 0.1% of the population than is not normal and not sane.

As our real problem is, Florida gun laws enhance the legal rights of total nuts, while diminishing the legal rights of sane.

A deadly combination that can only result in only more increasing irrational gun violence.

 

[lotus503]

Then you should have learned in the 2nd grade that it will be your duty as an adult to own a firearm.

Yeah I could see a case for it near revolutionary times. Over 200 years later and multiple population doubles.
It sort of retarded.

I own some guns, but I don't carry I e around, then again I'm pretty secure in my ability to handle myself without one.

I think that's the core issue, most ccws that don't have a profession or other need, simply carry for security.

Sort of like my kid and her blanket.