Is equal pay legislation a ploy to get women fired?

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Spungo

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I was watching a TV show about the great depression and it had some interesting parts about demanding equal pay for black workers. At that time, unions of white workers did not want to be underbid by black workers, so they insisted on having a minimum pay for all workers. This ensured that white workers would be hired before black workers because working for less money was the only way black workers could get jobs. This sounds eerily familiar. Today, women are often paid less because we work less. We work fewer hours, we usually stay away from dangerous tasks and heavy lifting, we take more sick days, and we're more likely to stay home to take care of sick kids. For a lot of women, getting paid less is the only reason they have a job. This wage gap actually reverses when looking at single women with no children. Single women with no children are paid an average of 8% more than men, which seems fair because we pay a hell of a lot more for haircuts.

Thoughts? Opinions? This wouldn't be the first time women have been stabbed in the back by men who claim to be "helping" us.
 

Doppel

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This is such a bullshit stat. What legislation is there going to be, exactly? It's already illegal to pay a woman less for the same job. So what do you legislate? Are men really such idiots that they would, in 2013, pay a guy $100k/year when the same job can be done by a woman for 3/4 that? Of course not. This isn't 1950. Women make less today because they don't do the same jobs.

So that article says when on an even playing field women do better (single), but when it's not the same field, they do worse. This makes sense; I know a ton of families in which the woman works part time or not at all. Certainly focusing so much less on career for child rearing has income repercussions.

I think the main reason women are doing better in the single young peer group is that women are just less likely to become bums and go off the rails. Women are getting more degrees than men now and in school get better grades. Something is wrong with boys in our society, relatively speaking. They have become sloppy.
 
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This myth that woman earn less than men for the same job has been debunked numerous times. It's usually liberals and feminists making up this BS and anyone who disagrees with them is labelled a mysoginist.
 

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My wife at been a stay at home mom for the last three+ years. I don't expect that she'll command the same pay as a woman who stayed single or childless and kept hammering away at their career. By time my wife steps back into a career again, she'll have to rebuild her skills and bring them up to date, and build a whole new network of peers...So of course she'll make less than a man.
 

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Sucks that part of the presidential debate spread more of those crazy statistics and gave them legitimacy.
 
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My wife at been a stay at home mom for the last three+ years. I don't expect that she'll command the same pay as a woman who stayed single or childless and kept hammering away at their career. By time my wife steps back into a career again, she'll have to rebuild her skills and bring them up to date, and build a whole new network of peers...So of course she'll make less than a man.

But... but... that 3 years time was spent learning VALUEABLE SKILLS such as diaper changing in approximately 5 seconds flat, AND amazing court skills/information on Maury / Judge Judy. This is just sexism!
 

nehalem256

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I was watching a TV show about the great depression and it had some interesting parts about demanding equal pay for black workers. At that time, unions of white workers did not want to be underbid by black workers, so they insisted on having a minimum pay for all workers. This ensured that white workers would be hired before black workers because working for less money was the only way black workers could get jobs.

Thoughts? Opinions? This wouldn't be the first time women have been stabbed in the back by men who claim to be "helping" us.

Seems like a totally different situation.

It is largely female feminists pushing for equal pay legislation. Might this result in women having a harder time getting employment? Sure. But that is more a result of feminists failure to understand economics not a nefarious scheme cooked up by men.
 

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What about logistic handling, scheduling and accounting/bookkeeping
 

HumblePie

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This myth that woman earn less than men for the same job has been debunked numerous times. It's usually liberals and feminists making up this BS and anyone who disagrees with them is labelled a mysoginist.

Yes and no...

The "average" woman makes less than the "average" man even today. But that's just a really bad grouping since there are still far more stay at home moms than dads that pull in any income while they are at home watching the kids.

Also, women are more likely to take certain jobs that pay less then men on average. Both the stay at home supporter and the fact women are willing to take lesser paying jobs (like being a grade school teacher) aren't exactly things that can be fixed with legislation. Nor should they be even attempted to be fixed.

When you break down the gender pay into specific jobs.... a whole new level of detail is revealed. In most jobs women make as much if not more then men doing the same job. Women mechanics versus men? Women make more. Women construction workers versus men? Women make more. Women in the service industry versus men? Women make more. Basically the comparisons like that continue for MOST industries out there. The only few that they don't is like in teaching. Men that teach in schools typically tend to teach more advanced classes where there are less capable teachers willing to teach those courses. Those courses are at a premium so those that teach those courses get paid more. Science, Math, and Computers are the primary courses that command larger salaries. They are usually taught by men because there are less female applicants for those.

So when you look at the average breakdown of jobs by industry and then by gender. The stats take on a whole different view of the "average" wage when comparing men and women. In most cases the women make as much if not more.
 
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