Is elective abortion a woman taking or avoiding responsibility?

[glenn1]

Simple question. Is a woman who gets an abortion being responsible and accountable, or selfish and irresponsible? For sake of argument consider it as an unintended but healthy pregnancy and exclude abortions for "live of mother," rape, and other typical exception cases.

 

[dank69]

Really depends on each individual situation. Which is why I leave the decision up to the woman who needs to make it.

 

[kage69]

Depends on the woman and the circumstances. It may be a simple question for you, but that doesn't mean the answer is simple.

Here's a better question: why do you feel entitled to judge a woman as responsible or not based on situations you are ignorant of?

 

[zinfamous]

For sake of argument consider it as an unintended but healthy pregnancy and exclude abortions for "live of mother," rape, and other typical exception cases.

Is the woman:

--unwilling to care for a kid due to simply not wanting to be a mother, whether or not she feels she is too young, or just never wants children ever?
--unwilling to have a kid because she just wants to keep on screwing without any protection and without any consequences?
--unwilling to have a kid because she is extremely poor, perhaps lives in a rough neighborhood, on fixed income and doesn't want to bring one into a bad environment?

 

[WHAMPOM]

Simple question. Is a woman who gets an abortion being responsible and accountable, or selfish and irresponsible? For sake of argument consider it as an unintended but healthy pregnancy and exclude abortions for "live of mother," rape, and other typical exception cases.

Reproduction is a selfish act, look it up " the Selfish Gene " should set you straight.

 

[senseamp]

Taking responsibility and control over her reproduction.

 

[Moonbeam]

Why do you ask? As a male, my opinion is irrelevant.

 

[Jhhnn]

Not being a control freak, I figure it's none of my business.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

It's being responsible, at least in most cases I can think of. The irresponsible ones are the women that choose to give birth when they have no husband to support them.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I vote nobody's business what her reasoning is but her own. Since it's a completely lawful action it doesn't matter why she does it.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Debate is on both sides here.

Some say: You are selfish for having an abundance of children and not thinking of the human population as a whole. Ultimately, they need more and feed more in life - especially if you are living off government assistance. But the main emphasis I believe, is that we are already a population that is growing tremendously, we don't need anymore families with 6-kids.

Others say: You are selfish for taking the life of someone else's. Be it that they were alive or not alive in the womb, it was a possible life on this earth - and you are selfish for being the person that gets to decide if they live or not.

Personally, I don't quite identify with either of those.

My opinion: I don't know if I sway one way or another as far as the whole "selfish" clause is concerned. However, I will definitely vouch that having an abortion when you are struggling to pay for your own life is definitely a step in the "accountability/responsibility" direction.

I vote nobody's business what her reasoning is but her own. Since it's a completely lawful action it doesn't matter why she does it.

...What if it was your kid? I would say that is most certainly your business.

Part of the reason I fucking loathe the whole "MY BODY, MY CHOICE" phrase that feminist love to spit out their disgusting mouths. God forbid you consider the other half that is responsible for the kid too. No no no, you're the box that holds it, so you get to be the sole decision maker

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Debate is on both sides here.

Some say: You are selfish for having an abundance of children and not thinking of the human population as a whole. Ultimately, they need more and feed more in life - especially if you are living off government assistance. But the main emphasis I believe, is that we are already a population that is growing tremendously, we don't need anymore families with 6-kids.

Others say: You are selfish for taking the life of someone else's. Be it that they were alive or not alive in the womb, it was a possible life on this earth - and you are selfish for being the person that gets to decide if they live or not.

Personally, I don't quite identify with either of those.

My opinion: I don't know if I sway one way or another as far as the whole "selfish" clause is concerned. However, I will definitely vouch that having an abortion when you are struggling to pay for your own life is definitely a step in the "accountability/responsibility" direction.




...What if it was your kid? I would say that is most certainly your business.

Part of the reason I fucking loathe the whole "MY BODY, MY CHOICE" phrase that feminist love to spit out their disgusting mouths. God forbid you consider the other half that is responsible for the kid too. No no no, you're the box that holds it, so you get to be the sole decision maker

If she is an adult then no, it really is not my business. Whether I like it or not an adult is free to make whatever medical decisions she wants. I'd hope she talkes to me about it first but if not that is her decision.

 

[master_shake_]

i think a forum full of mostly men discussing women's reproductive choices is hilarious.

 

[Blackjack200]

None of the above. It's a decision a woman makes for herself for her own personal reasons. Nothing else. It is not responsible or irresponsible.

[she gets] to be the sole decision maker

Exactly.

 

[glenn1]

I vote nobody's business what her reasoning is but her own. Since it's a completely lawful action it doesn't matter why she does it.

It's not about whether it's lawful as that's well established. This is simply a poll about people's opinions. I venture to say even those saying 'it's none of my business' still have a personal opinion about it even if they don't think it should influence a woman's decision one way or another; I find it implausible that someone could look at someone else making a possibly very difficult decision and being 100% ambivalent about it.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

None of the above. It's a decision a woman makes for herself for her own personal reasons. Nothing else. It is not responsible or irresponsible.



Exactly.

What is your justification for a woman getting the sole decision - with zero input from the father - as to if she should or should not abort a baby? What, because she is the fucking box that holds the life? That's the only reason?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You can argue that responsibility has no meaning when a fetus is involved, because the only human life (as recognized by our system of laws) is the woman's, but I think the idea that choosing to give birth is purely a woman's decision is a joke. If she can be responsible for the child, yes, it's her decision. If she can't, then it's not just her fucking body anymore, there's now a new individual human being that has to be supported. I'd really like to see the "pro-choice" movement change to "pro-abortion", which is really the only ethical solution to millions of children born to sugardaddies and crackwhores unable or unwilling to support them properly.

 

[soulcougher73]

Id rather her do the overall responsible thing and have an abortion if it was an unplanned irresponsible pregnancy. Usually they are younger and would be on some kind of gov. assistance as well being even more irresponsible with other peoples money for her bad choices. But either way. I'm not a woman so its not my choice...although i do think men should get a choice but that's for another thread.

 

[BurnItDwn]

i believe a woman owns her body, she can put in it what she wants, she can take out of it what she wants. If she chooses to murder the fetus developing inside of her, that is her right. I do not like it, but, It is something that I believe I should be powerless to prevent.

 

[Blackjack200]

What is your justification for a woman getting the sole decision - with zero input from the father - as to if she should or should not abort a baby?

It's irreducible. Sorry. You either believe that a woman is a person with a right to do with her own body as she chooses or you don't.

What, because she is the fucking box that holds the life? That's the only reason?

That's pretty revealing.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

What is your justification for a woman getting the sole decision - with zero input from the father - as to if she should or should not abort a baby? What, because she is the fucking box that holds the life? That's the only reason?

She's a person, not a box, you dehumanizing asshole.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

i think a forum full of mostly men discussing women's reproductive choices is hilarious.

^^
This

 

[boomerang]

i think a forum full of mostly men discussing women's reproductive choices is hilarious.

I believe I'm fully qualified to do so because I have a financial interest in it. You don't believe the lie that taxpayers aren't funding abortions do you?

 

[soulcougher73]

She's a person, not a box, you dehumanizing asshole.

I agree with you about the box comment, but i think his overall point has merit for discussion. I would like to see fathers have some say in the matter. It is also his child she is aborting. What if the father would like to take sole custody of the child and raise it himself (assuming they were just dating), and would pay for all medical etc for her to carry it to term.

I know their are lots of variables and scenarios this can play out in. But i think men should have some say, but maybe not the final say.

 

[boomerang]

I agree with you about the box comment, but i think his overall point has merit for discussion. I would like to see fathers have some say in the matter. It is also his child she is aborting. What if the father would like to take sole custody of the child and raise it himself (assuming they were just dating), and would pay for all medical etc for her to carry it to term.

I know their are lots of variables and scenarios this can play out in. But i think men should have some say, but maybe not the final say.

If a man can be forced to pay support for a child that is not his, he absolutely should have a say under the circumstances you described.