Is "due to the fact that" really necessary?

isaacmacdonald

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I've seen this twice today. The first time was on a sign posted at the grocery store, the second was on pervertedjustice.com (big bust this week). It reads awkwardly, yet seems to be in common usage. Why not simply write "because"?
 

When people use big words or complicated and awkward phrases, it often makes them think they're smarter than they really are.
 

Yossarian

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Due to the fact that pretentious writing is prevalent in today's litigious society, "because" has become disenfranchised.

(p.s. did you know Word has a safe mode? I just discovered it accidentally while checking the spelling of "litigious" ;) )
 

Broohaha

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the situation being as it is, i think that the majority of americans, inasmuch as i can tell, are, so far as i can discern, somewhat wordy in their construction of sentences.
 

Jombo

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due to the fact that you are a dumbass..

because you are a dumbass..

you are a dumbass, so stop using something that looks big and impressive when it's not necessary, is what i'd say :p

 

due to the fact that you are too lazy to read "due to the fact" instead of "because" i must put it in there, in filter out your worthless opinion. :)
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Broohaha
the situation being as it is, i think that the majority of americans, inasmuch as i can tell, are, so far as i can discern, somewhat wordy in their construction of sentences.

I, don't, think, you, used, enough, commas, in, that, sentance.
 

Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Broohaha
the situation being as it is, i think that the majority of americans, inasmuch as i can tell, are, so far as i can discern, somewhat wordy in their construction of sentences.

I, don't, think, you, used, enough, commas, in, that, sentance.

i,n,d,e,e,d,
 

markuskidd

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Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
I've seen this twice today. The first time was on a sign posted at the grocery store, the second was on pervertedjustice.com (big bust this week). It reads awkwardly, yet seems to be in common usage. Why not simply write "because"?

or just "due to"
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Broohaha
the situation being as it is, i think that the majority of americans, inasmuch as i can tell, are, so far as i can discern, somewhat wordy in their construction of sentences.

I, don't, think, you, used, enough, commas, in, that, sentance.

but i believe they are all appropriate. i may be wrong, im v. tired. but they all look ok from a grammar standpoint.
 

TerryMathews

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Is due a preposition?

You shouldn't start a sentence with because.

Is "Due to the fact that I can't start a sentence with because, I will start it with due to the fact that." a proper sentence? Too lazy to pull out Writer's Handbook.
 

BamBam215

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i used to be wordy too. had a few great english teachers who emphasize on keeping it simple. so if u're writing a paper, make sure u keep it simple and concise. now if you're bullsh!tting a paper and want to confuse your professor/teacher, then yeah be as wordy as possible ;)
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
I've seen this twice today. The first time was on a sign posted at the grocery store, the second was on pervertedjustice.com (big bust this week). It reads awkwardly, yet seems to be in common usage. Why not simply write "because"?

It would seem to me that DTTFT explictly states that the item is "fact" whereas "because" lacks a requirement for a "factual" basis. DTTFT would be more popular then, when making a factual point, as opposed to pulling it out of your rear end.
 
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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
I've seen this twice today. The first time was on a sign posted at the grocery store, the second was on pervertedjustice.com (big bust this week). It reads awkwardly, yet seems to be in common usage. Why not simply write "because"?

It would seem to me that DTTFT explictly states that the item is "fact" whereas "because" lacks a requirement for a "factual" basis. DTTFT would be more popular then, when making a factual point, as opposed to pulling it out of your rear end.

Wow! An actual usefyul answer!

A :beer: for you, SAH! :D
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: PatboyX
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Broohaha
the situation being as it is, i think that the majority of americans, inasmuch as i can tell, are, so far as i can discern, somewhat wordy in their construction of sentences.

I, don't, think, you, used, enough, commas, in, that, sentance.

but i believe they are all appropriate. i may be wrong, im v. tired. but they all look ok from a grammar standpoint.
Back to English for you! :p
 

StageLeft

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Because when people stretch themselves with words and grammar it makes them feel smart, which in turn makes them feel that their message is more likely to be heeded.
 

rudder

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its because due to the fact that some things really need to be spelled out to some people.