Is destroying America the end goal?

Spungo

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There are 2 general theories of how to get out of a recession:
1 - Government construction projects.
2 - Do absolutely nothing.

Our government picks a third option: waste tons of money, construct absolutely nothing. wtf? Is our government run by Chinese spies or something?

Here are some past government projects that were probably worth doing.

Interstate highways:
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Hoover Dam
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Tennessee Valley Authority
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We don't seem to be building anything right now, but we're spending a lot on food stamps and unemployment. How is this helping the economy?
 
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brycejones

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Wasn't there lots of bitching about infrastructure projects being a waste of money when the recession started?
 

Sohaltang

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We are not in a recession. The markets are at record highs. There is plenty of money and jobs to be made if your motivated.
 

Capt Caveman

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Another retard thread by the OP. Again, are you in high school or college?

Plenty of construction projects going on, repairing our aging bridges and infrastructure.

Here in Boston, 2 of the 4 major bridges connecting Boston and Cambridge are under repair with the Longfellow Bridge in the top 10 of bridges in the worst condition in the country. And the other 2 bridges have been already been repaired and improved in the last couple of years.
 

MiniDoom

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We are not in a recession. The markets are at record highs. There is plenty of money and jobs to be made if your motivated.

we're not in a recession, but we're not booming. when you print 85 billion a month, stocks and wallstreet will do well, but the rest of us are still suffering.
 
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We are not in a recession. The markets are at record highs. There is plenty of money and jobs to be made if your motivated.

100% utter despicable lie.

We are on the verge of utter collapse, and a full quarter of society is unemployed, bankrupt, and facing death. Another quarter is destitute, but surviving (largely from credit and social programs). The third quarter is merely lower class.
 

ralfy

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The U.S. is heavy in debt due to the fact that it is a reserve currency economy. Given that, there is no way out except to decrease borrowing and spending heavily across the board.
 

trenchfoot

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Destroying America is not the end goal. It's controlling America by a select few that's the end goal.

Crashing the economy is IMO, one way of doing that. Just look at the result of what happened after the crash: The rich got a whole lot richer while everyone else took a big drop on the economic ladder of success.

We may be in recovery, but the recovery is for the most part only being experienced by the middle class and the poor. The very rich safely immunized themselves from the crash that they pretty much saw coming and who knows, may have been complicit in causing it.

They sure as hell profited from it from the looks of things.

edit - And even if the very rich didn't have much of a net gain, just for the fact that everyone else took a big net loss puts still puts the very rich in a much better position to control our government via influence peddling.
 
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Destroying America is not the end goal. It's controlling America by a select few that's the end goal.

Crashing the economy is IMO, one way of doing that. Just look at the result of what happened after the crash: The rich got a whole lot richer while everyone else took a big drop on the economic ladder of success.

We may be in recovery, but the recovery is for the most part only being experienced by the middle class and the poor. The very rich safely immunized themselves from the crash that they pretty much saw coming and who knows, may have been complicit in causing it.

They sure as hell profited from it from the looks of things.

edit - And even if the very rich didn't have much of a net gain, just for the fact that everyone else took a big net loss puts still puts the very rich in a much better position to control our government via influence peddling.

More idiotic liberal BS. The government was responsible for the crash and not the rich. When will liberals stop spreading this lie that the rich are responsible for what happened.
 

ralfy

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More idiotic liberal BS. The government was responsible for the crash and not the rich. When will liberals stop spreading this lie that the rich are responsible for what happened.

The Fed is not a government institution but a private consortium of commercial banks.

Worse, much of money supply is created by loans from commercial banks:

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2012/10/22/commodities/myth-money-multiplier

Finally, the fact that the government works for the rich is the reason by the former easily bailed out the latter.
 

Jhhnn

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There are 2 general theories of how to get out of a recession:
1 - Government construction projects.
2 - Do absolutely nothing.

Our government picks a third option: waste tons of money, construct absolutely nothing. wtf? Is our government run by Chinese spies or something?

Here are some past government projects that were probably worth doing.

We don't seem to be building anything right now, but we're spending a lot on food stamps and unemployment. How is this helping the economy?

False premises lead to false conclusions, particularly through motivated reasoning.

Works projects serve to stimulate the economy by creating income & spending through jobs. While the results often times have positive effects, that's not the primary purpose in times of economic depression. It never was. The purpose is to help keep Americans fed, clothed, and housed when business interests aren't doing that well. It also supports business, given that people who are broke aren't customers.

Various forms of welfare were mostly designed as temporary support in a fluctuating business climate. They become more permanent when business doesn't produce jobs in recovery.

Don't blame the govt for responding to the legitimate needs of the people. Don't blame poor people for being poor. Blame business for failing to fulfill their traditional role as job creators.
 

Scotteq

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I don't believe people are 'trying to destroy America', so much as 'trying to remake America to match their vision of The Way Things Should Be'. Generally speaking, that involves the re-education and suppression of those who have different opinions as well as rewards and privileges accorded to those who get with the intended program.

Liberty for liberty's sake was dead generations ago.