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Is DDR3 Development Dead?

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cbrunny

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I have been shopping around for a decent deal on a DDR3 2x8GB kit. It looks like most of the kits currently available have been available for about two years now with no changes. Are there still expected changes to DDR3 or is it basically a dead platform with DDR4 now?

To put it another way, is it reasonable to expect something like DDR3-2400MHZ-CL9/10 to become "mainstream" with higher clock speeds coming at a (reasonable) premium price any time soon? Or are the current >2400MHZ kits @ ~$500+ as good as it will get?
 
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Nothing new has been on the horizon for the DDR3 for quite some time. It exceeded expectations, so they've all been taking their time hashing out DDR4.

But, $500?! Where is that coming from? They're $120-150 (2133 at 1.5V, 2400 at 1.65V).
 
They priced it that way because the mass selling potential is not quite there yet.

When low end-mid range boards & laptops start using DDR4 thats when the price will drop. No one is going to spend double the cost of DDR3 for a DDR4 mainstream board.
 
If you are going to build a project with DDR3 buy all you want now. Don't expect it to be available at a low price later. Maybe even buy extra.
 
gskill 2400c10 kits have been mainstream priced for a while now at ~$5-20 more than 1600c9 in au
2133 9-11-10 kits are also good value and a fine choice for stores that dont have 2400 10-12-12 at a good price
higher kits have always been overly expencive though for minimal gain there just not good value

2400c10 2x8g $189
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820231589


to gave you some idea of the performance difference it can make in a cpu bottlenecked game here is some tests i ran on my system

Arma 3
2600k@4.9 1333 9-9-9 49.3fps
2600k@4.3 2133 9-11-10 54.7fps
2600k@4.9 2133 9-11-10 59.5fps
http://forums.bistudio.com/showthre...rmance-comparison-1600-2133-up-to-15-FPS-gain


the other thing to consider when buying high speed ram for haswell is that it can limit the cpu oc a bit so going for more of a middle ground like 2400 rather than 3000mhz may not be so bad anyway
there can also be a performance benefit to 8g sticks as most 4g sticks these days are single sided
 
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Fellow resident of Canadia here.

Don't pay that much for DDR3... buy used! I suggest you watch forums like Redflagdeals and Hardware Canucks. I got this 32GB kit for $280 shipped. Split with a friend for $140 CAD each for 16GB of 2133MHz 1.5v memory.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820220835

Most RAM has a lifetime serial-based warranty anyway, so there's no major disadvantage to buying used memory.
 
The fastest DDR3 chips are rated 2133 MHz and clock 14 and are rarely found on even the fastest DIMMs, which are typically made from 1600 MHz/11 chips.
 
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The fastest DDR3 chips are rated 2133 MHz and clock 14 and are rarely found on even the fastest DIMMs, which are typically made from 1600 MHz/11 chips.
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wut? This is my daily driver timings:
http://valid.canardpc.com/1cgv3t
IMO the best DDR3 are 4GB Samsungs
or 2GB high-binned Powerchips
or ..well.. I like Hypers.
None of those are being produced anymore.
Someone has a decent kit of G.Skill Samsungs for sale on OCN right now..
 
bryanl said:
The fastest DDR3 chips are rated 2133 MHz and clock 14 and are rarely found on even the fastest DIMMs, which are typically made from 1600 MHz/11 chips.
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schmuckley said:
wut? This is my daily driver timings:
http://valid.canardpc.com/1cgv3t
IMO the best DDR3 are 4GB Samsungs
or 2GB high-binned Powerchips
or ..well.. I like Hypers.
None of those are being produced anymore.
Someone has a decent kit of G.Skill Samsungs for sale on OCN right now..
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I'm going by the actual specifications of the DRAM chips, not the SPD tables read by CPU-Z, and the binning done by chip manufacturers is much more strict than what is done by DIMM manufacturers like G.Skill, who rarely employ the same class of test equipment.
 
I went with 2 x 8GB G.Skill Trident X 2400MHZ CL10 for $195 CDN. Pricing isn't as good as I want it to be but it is competitive with pretty much everywhere in Canada that I normally shop from.

Noticed a huge difference immediately on boot over my 8 GB 1333mhz. Not quite in half but I'd say at least 30% faster boot. Also posted my highest 3dMark scores. Didn't get much of a chance to try it in game though but it does appear that I've significantly reduced my bottleneck. I'm pretty sure that now my weakest component is my GPU @ 2 x 7970.
 
Damn... it did. I doubt they'll give me anything. I ordered from Canada Computers, and their customer service is generally pretty poor. They don't price match anything, really.
 
I have a question related to this, ..

it seems that all processors support a maximum clock rate of ddr3-1600 , (without overclocking) and that applies to i7-4790K

Is it possible to see processors officially supporting higher clock rates than 1600 without overclocking ?
or will they just move to ddr4 ?
 
some broadwell cpu officially support 1866
some amd fm2 cpu officially support 2133
but i wouldnt expect things to go much further now ddr4 is here
 
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