Is Christmas any longer a religious holiday?

[sillymofo]

I celebrate Christmas (X-mas for me) as a family holiday, and I'm Buddhist. How do you guys see this as?

 

[Gunther]

I see as the same, a family holiday. It never really was a religious holiday for my family.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Until someone changes Xmas to no longer be the day to celebrate the birth of Christ (since no one knows what day he was really born on) it will always be a religious holiday. Now, how a person chooses to observe it is up to them. It's kinda like everyone elses birthday. If you were born on July 15th July 15th will always be your b-day, even if you choose not to celebrate it.

Lethal

 

[Sideswipe001]

No wonder people call it X-mas then. Heck, take the 'Christ' right out. But what can I say. I'm Christian, but I do admit this holiday was put where it was to appease Christians and Pagans by Constantine, I think. He took two celebrations and jammed them together.

Celebrate what you will, but I think most Christians still look at is as a holy holiday.

 

[Colt45]

95% commercial holiday, it seems.

 

[clicknext]

The Christmas we know today is not celebrated by most people for its original meaning. For most people, it's become a general holiday, and probably the biggest reason of the year to celebrate.

 

[KillaKilla]

It's the day where my relatives get suckered into getting me most of my computer upgrades! :twisted:

I, personally, am athiest so I guess it really con't be a "religous" holiday...

 

[Chaotic42]

I celebrate it for the birth of Christ, which is why I don't do any of the regular Christmas crap like give gifts to people or recieve them.

The only true gift is an anonymous one. I don't like it when people put their names on gifts, or talk about how much they gave to one charity or another.

 

[Belethgaladwen]

Originally posted by: Sideswipe001
No wonder people call it X-mas then. Heck, take the 'Christ' right out. But what can I say. I'm Christian, but I do admit this holiday was put where it was to appease Christians and Pagans by Constantine, I think. He took two celebrations and jammed them together.

Celebrate what you will, but I think most Christians still look at is as a holy holiday.

Actually, using the "X" isn't as secular as it may seem. The Greek letter chi (symbolized by an 'x') is the first letter in the Greek spelling of the name of Christ. The "X-mas" spelling is probably a corruption of that.
And as long as it's called "Christmas" most people will probably think of it as a religious holiday.

 

[speg]

haha is that why it's called x-mas? casue they don't want to say christ, hehe neat.

 

[SynthesisI]

Christmas is a celebration for Christians of the birth of Jesus Christ. Anybody else who 'celebrates' it is just mocking the most important holiday in the world.

It is still religious and will continue to be so, as much as the ACLU bastards hate it.

 

[SynthesisI]

Originally posted by: speg
haha is that why it's called x-mas? casue they don't want to say christ, hehe neat.

How is that 'neat'? :disgust:

 

[DaWhim]

christmas carol is fun, I wanna go again this year.

 

[SynthesisI]

Originally posted by: Belethgaladwen

Originally posted by: Sideswipe001
No wonder people call it X-mas then. Heck, take the 'Christ' right out. But what can I say. I'm Christian, but I do admit this holiday was put where it was to appease Christians and Pagans by Constantine, I think. He took two celebrations and jammed them together.

Celebrate what you will, but I think most Christians still look at is as a holy holiday.

Actually, using the "X" isn't as secular as it may seem. The Greek letter chi (symbolized by an 'x') is the first letter in the Greek spelling of the name of Christ. The "X-mas" spelling is probably a corruption of that.
And as long as it's called "Christmas" most people will probably think of it as a religious holiday.

Trust me. Polite and reasonable as your explanation sounds, it's hogwash. 'Xmas' is just a propaganda goal of bastardization by left-wing athiest Christian-haters to rid Jesus Christ out of everyone's lives. Christ belongs in the word Christmas, and taking Him out and replacing Him with an X is offensive to Christians. Whether you recognize Him as The Son of God, or one of world history's great philosophers, don't X Him out.

 

[Gunther]

Originally posted by: SynthesisI

Originally posted by: Belethgaladwen

Originally posted by: Sideswipe001
No wonder people call it X-mas then. Heck, take the 'Christ' right out. But what can I say. I'm Christian, but I do admit this holiday was put where it was to appease Christians and Pagans by Constantine, I think. He took two celebrations and jammed them together.

Celebrate what you will, but I think most Christians still look at is as a holy holiday.

Actually, using the "X" isn't as secular as it may seem. The Greek letter chi (symbolized by an 'x') is the first letter in the Greek spelling of the name of Christ. The "X-mas" spelling is probably a corruption of that.
And as long as it's called "Christmas" most people will probably think of it as a religious holiday.

Trust me. Polite and reasonable as your explanation sounds, it's hogwash. 'Xmas' is just a propaganda goal of bastardization by left-wing athiest Christian-haters to rid Jesus Christ out of everyone's lives. Christ belongs in the word Christmas, and taking it out and replacing it with an X is offensive to Christians. Whether you recognize him as The Son of God or one of world history's great philosophers, don't X Him out.

I think you are putting a bit too much emphasis on the name because even if the name stayed the same the meaning has been and will continue to change. I agree with you that people should use Christmas because that's the name of the holiday. Its like if you knew a guy named Jesus and called him Joe instead

 

[IEatChildren]

Christmas lost all religious connotation the moment Coca Cola invented Santa Claus

 

[sharkeeper]

Actually, using the "X" isn't as secular as it may seem. The Greek letter chi (symbolized by an 'x') is the first letter in the Greek spelling of the name of Christ. The "X-mas" spelling is probably a corruption of that.
And as long as it's called "Christmas" most people will probably think of it as a religious holiday.

During my travels, I pass many signs that have "RAILROAD X-ING" printed on them...

It's pretty cheesy when you see people drawing signs on their front door window with spray on frost that say MERRY XMAS.

Retailers of course see it as $MAS.

Cheers!

 

[SynthesisI]

Yeah. If we rename Christmas, then we might as well rename all the other holidays too. When you look at it that way, it's just ludicrous. Fortunately, most Americans are smart enough to recognize this and fend off liberal movements like the ACLU that try to take these holidays away anywhere they can. ACLU actions will never succeed due to majority of the population who are against their silly offensive on American traditions. Their small actions make just enough waves in the media to get people's attention and piss them off. And that's about it.

When you think about it, it makes all the materialistic marketing hype around this time of year seem perfectly normal and accepted...

 

[SynthesisI]

Originally posted by: IEatChildren
Christmas lost all religious connotation the moment Coca Cola invented Santa Claus

Negatory. Santa Claus, and the many variations thereof around the world, have been around for centuries.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: IEatChildren
Christmas lost all religious connotation the moment Coca Cola invented Santa Claus

Maybe they can make 700 Club Soda. "It's Jesus in a can!"

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: SynthesisI

Originally posted by: Belethgaladwen

Originally posted by: Sideswipe001
No wonder people call it X-mas then. Heck, take the 'Christ' right out. But what can I say. I'm Christian, but I do admit this holiday was put where it was to appease Christians and Pagans by Constantine, I think. He took two celebrations and jammed them together.

Celebrate what you will, but I think most Christians still look at is as a holy holiday.

Actually, using the "X" isn't as secular as it may seem. The Greek letter chi (symbolized by an 'x') is the first letter in the Greek spelling of the name of Christ. The "X-mas" spelling is probably a corruption of that.
And as long as it's called "Christmas" most people will probably think of it as a religious holiday.

Trust me. Polite and reasonable as your explanation sounds, it's hogwash. 'Xmas' is just a propaganda goal of bastardization by left-wing athiest Christian-haters to rid Jesus Christ out of everyone's lives. Christ belongs in the word Christmas, and taking Him out and replacing Him with an X is offensive to Christians. Whether you recognize Him as The Son of God, or one of world history's great philosophers, don't X Him out.

Christmas

The word "Christmas" means "Mass of Christ," later shortened to "Christ-Mass." The even shorter form "Xmas" - first used in Europe in the 1500s - is derived from the Greek alphabet, in which X is the first letter of Christ's name: Xristos, therefore "X-Mass."

Today we know that Christ was not born on the 25th of December. The date was chosen to coincide with the pagan Roman celebrations honouring Saturnus (the harvest god) and Mithras (the ancient god of light), a form of sun worship. These celebrations came on or just after the winter solstice, the shortest day of the year in the northern hemisphere, to announce that winter is not forever, that life continues, and an invitation to stay in good spirit.

 

[fumbduck]

my indian friends celebrate it and halloween and thanksgiving... all originally christian holidays, although thanksgiving isn't necessarily.

 

[pg22]

Originally posted by: SynthesisI

Originally posted by: Belethgaladwen

Originally posted by: Sideswipe001 No wonder people call it X-mas then. Heck, take the 'Christ' right out. But what can I say. I'm Christian, but I do admit this holiday was put where it was to appease Christians and Pagans by Constantine, I think. He took two celebrations and jammed them together. Celebrate what you will, but I think most Christians still look at is as a holy holiday.

Actually, using the "X" isn't as secular as it may seem. The Greek letter chi (symbolized by an 'x') is the first letter in the Greek spelling of the name of Christ. The "X-mas" spelling is probably a corruption of that. And as long as it's called "Christmas" most people will probably think of it as a religious holiday.

Trust me. Polite and reasonable as your explanation sounds, it's hogwash. 'Xmas' is just a propaganda goal of bastardization by left-wing athiest Christian-haters to rid Jesus Christ out of everyone's lives. Christ belongs in the word Christmas, and taking Him out and replacing Him with an X is offensive to Christians. Whether you recognize Him as The Son of God, or one of world history's great philosophers, don't X Him out.

What was your other username on this board? I remember you...

 

[Palek]

If you think Santa and "Xmas" take the meaning out of Christmas, you will be horrified to find out that in Japan Christmas is a day of "romance" on which many couples go to so-called love hotels for some bedroom fun... Also, people buy Christmas cakes.

 

[TheToOTaLL]

Originally posted by: Palek

If you think Santa and "Xmas" take the meaning out of Christmas, you will be horrified to find out that in Japan Christmas is a day of "romance" on which many couples go to so-called love hotels for some bedroom fun...

Sweet! I'll have to pull that one on my wife....