Is Berkeley Ready to Pay for Sex-Change Operations?

pcgeek11

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Only in California... God the stupidity never ends. Why is this even being considered?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/news/2011/01/berkeley-taxpayers-may-pay-sex-change-surgery

A proposal that would cover the cost of sex-change operations for city employees in Berkeley is set for a City Council vote Tuesday night.

Berkeley health insurance providers Kaiser Permanente and Health Net don't pay for gender-reassignment surgery under the city's current health plans. The City Council proposal would set aside an annual $20,000 fund for the procedure for city employees.

The benefit would allow employees to collect the money before the sex-change operation, which can cost up to $50,000. The money would be distributed on a first-come, first-serve basis each year.

To receive a payout from the fund, employees would have to have lived as the opposite sex for at least one year and undergone hormone therapy. They also would have to have worked for the city at least a year.

City Councilman Darryl Moore first proposed the idea in 2007.

"We offer all kinds of benefits to our employees," Moore told the San Francisco Chronicle. "This brings our benefits in line with what's just and fair for the transgender community."

At least a few of the city's 1,500 employees have asked about the surgery, Moore said.

Berkeley would not be the country's first city to cover sex changes for employees.

San Francisco began offering a $50,000-per-employee lifetime benefit to pay for gender-reassignment surgery in 2001. By 2006, the surgery was covered as a regular part of employees' health insurance with a lifetime cap of $75,000.

Not everyone in Berkeley is happy with the plan. Former zoning commissioner Ann Slaby told the Chronicle the city should be paying more attention to basic services.

"How come I'm paying for this?" Slaby said. "There might be some people who really need this, but right now my street badly needs paving."
 

Infohawk

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Are sex changes really ever a medical necessity? It seems just as likely that someone is suffering from a treatable mental problem (with drugs or therapy) than they are truly "trapped within the body of another gender."
 

Schadenfroh

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San Francisco began offering a $50,000-per-employee lifetime benefit to pay for gender-reassignment surgery in 2001. By 2006, the surgery was covered as a regular part of employees' health insurance with a lifetime cap of $75,000.
What? People were switching back and forth?
 

boomerang

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Gotta keep up with SF! Wouldn't want to lose talent to another city with better benefits.
 

werepossum

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What? People were switching back and forth?
LOL Exactly what I was thinking. This is not a procedure that would appear to benefit from a lifetime cap. "Hey, this new penis is working out so well I'm thinking about adding a couple more!"

New valid government function - funding your addadychtomy.
 

Steeplerot

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It is a one time surgury that solves a lot of people problems with how they are born. This country is so backwards still with it's puritanical headtrip. Sad.
 

pcgeek11

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in most civilized countries, these operations are paid for by the state. certainly that is the case here in Australia.

Civilized Pfffft.

That is just crazy.

This should be something the person has to pay for themselves. Why should the taxpayers support this? I could see some mental health treatments to help them with their real problem...
 

Steeplerot

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Adding a dick or a vagina will not help their mental condition.

Care to let us know how you know? Plenty of social Conservatives function fine brainless and even without testicles in this forum all day.
 
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Throckmorton

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It is a one time surgury that solves a lot of people problems with how they are born. This country is so backwards still with it's puritanical headtrip. Sad.

No operation can actually change you to the other sex. Your biology defines what you are. To me a sex change operation is on par with churches trying to convert gays to straights.

Should gay reprogramming be covered too?
 

her209

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Seems silly because the justification can be used to cover other cosmetic surgeries such as breast enlargement. But it's the city's money, right?
 

Infohawk

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Never heard the term "money forest" before... Is that alluding to its money-making abilities in prostitution?
 

onlyCOpunk

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It's only 20 grand. I'm sure the city spends much more than that on more frivolous things.
 

IBMer

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Loliberals

Its funny when others try and lump in the crazies and raciests with the right wing you guys say people over generalizing, but man, you can't help but say all liberals when their crazies do something.
 

boomerang

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It's almost hard to believe that Berkeley could discriminate in such a egregious fashion. Why are these benefits only available on a first come, first served basis? Why only for employees of the city? Why are they not available for every resident of the city regardless of their status? Residents, both legal and illegal, the homeless, those incarcerated, men, women and children, everyone, should be entitled to this coverage.

It's discrimination and I'm shocked that the city intends to practice it to this degree. Shameful.