Is being blatently racist in a losing P&N argument a bannable offense?

[2Xtreme21]

7 posts down.


Racism not found

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Red Dawn

 

[OCGuy]

Poland has it's own race? 😕


And arent you the guy that rails against Jews all the time?

 

[2Xtreme21]

What if I said "that's an idiotic comment only a stupid [insert Ocguy31's cultural heritage] would say," you wouldn't be offended?

I've never railed against Jews (my family is half Jewish). I've railed against Zionists. It's similar to distinguishing Muslims from Mujahideen... which people don't do often either...

 

[DVad3r]

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=52&threadid=2266849

racist post

I'm Polish and I'm offended by this. Mods?

I expect some justice here after being banned myself for a week.

 

[OCGuy]

Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?


So if someone called me a "fat American", I should expect them to be banned?


Are we 12?

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?

Poles: "The Polish people, or Poles (Polish: Polacy [p?'lat??s?], singular Polak), are a Western Slavic ethnic group of Central Europe"

Oxford dictionary definition of "ethnic group":

2.a. Pertaining to race; peculiar to a race or nation; ethnological. Also, pertaining to or having common racial, cultural, religious, or linguistic characteristics, esp. designating a racial or other group within a larger system; hence (U.S. colloq.), foreign, exotic.
b ethnic minority (group), a group of people differentiated from the rest of the community by racial origins or cultural background, and usu. claiming or enjoying official recognition of their group identity. Also attrib.

Sorry, you started the semantic argument.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?


So if someone called me a "fat American", I should expect them to be banned?


Are we 12?

There's a lot of jokes about Poles being stupid or dumb in North America. I am not sure where that comes from, Polish people have a much higher educational system than here. Having a reference like that made to my race offends me.

Sorry there is just a lot of racist comments said on this forum about other ethnic groups and races, and nothing ever gets done, but when it comes to someone commenting on Jewish people everyone gets super sensitive and treat the matter like it's code red. I except the same regardless of who it's about.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?

Poles: "The Polish people, or Poles (Polish: Polacy [p?'lat??s?], singular Polak), are a Western Slavic ethnic group of Central Europe"

Oxford dictionary definition of "ethnic group":

2.a. Pertaining to race; peculiar to a race or nation; ethnological. Also, pertaining to or having common racial, cultural, religious, or linguistic characteristics, esp. designating a racial or other group within a larger system; hence (U.S. colloq.), foreign, exotic.
b ethnic minority (group), a group of people differentiated from the rest of the community by racial origins or cultural background, and usu. claiming or enjoying official recognition of their group identity. Also attrib.

Sorry, you started the semantic argument.

In this country, that is considered white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...s_of_the_United_States

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?

Poles: "The Polish people, or Poles (Polish: Polacy [p?'lat??s?], singular Polak), are a Western Slavic ethnic group of Central Europe"

Oxford dictionary definition of "ethnic group":

2.a. Pertaining to race; peculiar to a race or nation; ethnological. Also, pertaining to or having common racial, cultural, religious, or linguistic characteristics, esp. designating a racial or other group within a larger system; hence (U.S. colloq.), foreign, exotic.
b ethnic minority (group), a group of people differentiated from the rest of the community by racial origins or cultural background, and usu. claiming or enjoying official recognition of their group identity. Also attrib.

Sorry, you started the semantic argument.

In this country, that is considered white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...s_of_the_United_States

And if you ever held any minority status whatsoever in your life, I'm sure you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss all this. Try going to somewhere you're a minority and see if you like it.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?

Poles: "The Polish people, or Poles (Polish: Polacy [p?'lat??s?], singular Polak), are a Western Slavic ethnic group of Central Europe"

Oxford dictionary definition of "ethnic group":

2.a. Pertaining to race; peculiar to a race or nation; ethnological. Also, pertaining to or having common racial, cultural, religious, or linguistic characteristics, esp. designating a racial or other group within a larger system; hence (U.S. colloq.), foreign, exotic.
b ethnic minority (group), a group of people differentiated from the rest of the community by racial origins or cultural background, and usu. claiming or enjoying official recognition of their group identity. Also attrib.

Sorry, you started the semantic argument.

In this country, that is considered white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...s_of_the_United_States

Sorry I don't consider myself in the same classification as white people here. I am sure black people from Africa don't consider themselves to be the same as black people from here or from the Caribbean? Totally different culture, totally different looks physically, Polish people are a race because we can be distinguished by our features.

And he didn't say "white people are idiots", he said Poles.

Nice try, stop defending already.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?

Poles: "The Polish people, or Poles (Polish: Polacy [p?'lat??s?], singular Polak), are a Western Slavic ethnic group of Central Europe"

Oxford dictionary definition of "ethnic group":

2.a. Pertaining to race; peculiar to a race or nation; ethnological. Also, pertaining to or having common racial, cultural, religious, or linguistic characteristics, esp. designating a racial or other group within a larger system; hence (U.S. colloq.), foreign, exotic.
b ethnic minority (group), a group of people differentiated from the rest of the community by racial origins or cultural background, and usu. claiming or enjoying official recognition of their group identity. Also attrib.

Sorry, you started the semantic argument.

In this country, that is considered white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...s_of_the_United_States

And if you ever held any minority status whatsoever in your life, I'm sure you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss all this. Try going to somewhere you're a minority and see if you like it.

Exactly, my parents and I both struggled greatly as a minority in Canada, prone to discrimination etc, what the fuck do you know about what it is to be Polish and someone classifying you?

Nothing.

You have no clue how Canadian born white people here look at immigrants from other countries. The moment we open our mouths and they hear our accents they treat us like we are fuckin retarded.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Poland has it's own race? 😕


And arent you the guy that rails against Jews all the time?

What kind of a comment is that. So what if he rails againt Jews? People have the freedom to form opinions of their own about a nations doings. Do you think the mods will start looking up his posts and find a way to ban him for a week? Is that your intent? The way this forum has been run lately it sounds as if you might get your wish.

GTFO peon.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
7 posts down.

Your linking skills are weak.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
7 posts down.

Your linking skills are weak.

Can you help?

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
7 posts down.

Your linking skills are weak.

Can you help?

Why yes I can, thanks for asking.

Direct Link

 

[JD50]

So is this a bad time for all of those Polish jokes I heard back in middle school?

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: JD50
So is this a bad time for all of those Polish jokes I heard back in middle school?

Naw post them, obviously you guys are protected.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?


So if someone called me a "fat American", I should expect them to be banned?


Are we 12?

There's a lot of jokes about Poles being stupid or dumb in North America. I am not sure where that comes from, Polish people have a much higher educational system than here. Having a reference like that made to my race offends me.

Sorry there is just a lot of racist comments said on this forum about other ethnic groups and races, and nothing ever gets done, but when it comes to someone commenting on Jewish people everyone gets super sensitive and treat the matter like it's code red. I except the same regardless of who it's about.

Byly wy ponosiliscie w Polsce?
Robi wy mówicie Jezyk polski ?

I for one will totally disagree with you about the Polish school system.
They do not have a much higher education system that here in america!
In fact the education system is turning out people who can`t make a living.
People who are not well rounded. In fact many many of the young people who immigrate
to work or go to college find the USA is not the land of milk and honey as they were taught!

My daughter who graduated from Jagiellonian University in Krakow, just went back to Poland to live because she found it very difficult to live in the United States and she also found that the american education system did not recognize her degree....as other students are also finding out there years of study are often wasted.
I find it outlandish and ludicrous that you would say the Poles have a much higher educations sytem!

I was born into a Polish- Jewish family and grew up in Poland and came to the US and fortunately I make a good living as a classically trained singer and a professional trumpet player. I also direct 3 choirs during the year!

From one pole to another unless you grew up in Poland and actually have lived there for any length of time I would say you are not very knowledgeable about Poland! If you like we can speak Polish or Russian or Czech or German oe French it really doesn`t matter...

Peace!!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?


So if someone called me a "fat American", I should expect them to be banned?


Are we 12?

There's a lot of jokes about Poles being stupid or dumb in North America. I am not sure where that comes from, Polish people have a much higher educational system than here. Having a reference like that made to my race offends me.

Sorry there is just a lot of racist comments said on this forum about other ethnic groups and races, and nothing ever gets done, but when it comes to someone commenting on Jewish people everyone gets super sensitive and treat the matter like it's code red. I except the same regardless of who it's about.

They get super sensitive when you post about firing up the ovens when it comes to Jews. Only an idiot wouldn't understand how offensive and morally bankrupt it would be to post such disgusting rhetoric. Do you understand?

 

[Pulsar]

To the original poster: Please tell me you're joking.

So it's ok to mock/slander/insult people because of their belief system / religion (Zionism), but you believe there should be a whole different standard if someone insults a country?

Whether it's the President of the United States, the Prime Minister of Canada, a country, a race, or a religion, calling them names and insulting them is little more than childish. How you can try to draw a distinguishing line between this post and any dozen of your posts is beyond my ken.

How you can seriously expect someone to be banned for it is even more ludicrous.

Grow up.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?


So if someone called me a "fat American", I should expect them to be banned?


Are we 12?

There's a lot of jokes about Poles being stupid or dumb in North America. I am not sure where that comes from, Polish people have a much higher educational system than here. Having a reference like that made to my race offends me.

Sorry there is just a lot of racist comments said on this forum about other ethnic groups and races, and nothing ever gets done, but when it comes to someone commenting on Jewish people everyone gets super sensitive and treat the matter like it's code red. I except the same regardless of who it's about.

Byly wy ponosiliscie w Polsce?
Robi wy mówicie Jezyk polski ?

I for one will totally disagree with you about the Polish school system.
They do not have a much higher education system that here in america!
In fact the education system is turning out people who can`t make a living.
People who are not well rounded. In fact many many of the young people who immigrate
to work or go to college find the USA is not the land of milk and honey as they were taught!

My daughter who graduated from Jagiellonian University in Krakow, just went back to Poland to live because she found it very difficult to live in the United States and she also found that the american education system did not recognize her degree....as other students are also finding out there years of study are often wasted.
I find it outlandish and ludicrous that you would say the Poles have a much higher educations sytem!

I was born into a Polish- Jewish family and grew up in Poland and came to the US and fortunately I make a good living as a classically trained singer and a professional trumpet player. I also direct 3 choirs during the year!

From one pole to another unless you grew up in Poland and actually have lived there for any length of time I would say you are not very knowledgeable about Poland! If you like we can speak Polish or Russian or Czech or German oe French it really doesn`t matter...

Peace!!

Flauting your language abilities at me is a sign of being an idiot, do you think I will hold you in a higher light or something due to the fact that you know how to speak in various tongues?

You obviously have no clue about the educational system in Poland from what you've told me. I was born in Poland, lived there for 6 years and then immigrated to Germany, then I came to Canada. I've been back to Poland several times, 90 % of my family lives there. Just because degrees from Poland are not recognized here does not mean they aren't valid. That's a system that's been set up to prevent educated professionals from leaving the country, why would you take someone who already knows what they are doing when you can put them through schooling all over again and make money? Duh the logic is there...

Your daughter sounds like an idiot, I know several Polish immigrants that come here during high school or elementary, don't speak the language at all, and are way above level mathematically/georgraphically/scientifically, than their peers. In Poland you learn things at a much earlier age.

Don't classify yourself as a Pole, you are far from it.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?


So if someone called me a "fat American", I should expect them to be banned?


Are we 12?

There's a lot of jokes about Poles being stupid or dumb in North America. I am not sure where that comes from, Polish people have a much higher educational system than here. Having a reference like that made to my race offends me.

Sorry there is just a lot of racist comments said on this forum about other ethnic groups and races, and nothing ever gets done, but when it comes to someone commenting on Jewish people everyone gets super sensitive and treat the matter like it's code red. I except the same regardless of who it's about.

They get super sensitive when you post about firing up the ovens when it comes to Jews. Only an idiot wouldn't understand how offensive and morally bankrupt it would be to post such disgusting rhetoric. Do you understand?

I made a post about the Kaballah being a demonic practice. My reference to ovens was directed at that not regular Jews. It's been explained in my posts and you still gave me a week off regardless. You got super sensitive. I have paid my dues anyways and learned my lesson.

There's been a racial reference made against me here now, what action are you taking towards the matter?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Oh, so you want someone banned for a national stereotype, not a racial one?


So if someone called me a "fat American", I should expect them to be banned?


Are we 12?

There's a lot of jokes about Poles being stupid or dumb in North America. I am not sure where that comes from, Polish people have a much higher educational system than here. Having a reference like that made to my race offends me.

Sorry there is just a lot of racist comments said on this forum about other ethnic groups and races, and nothing ever gets done, but when it comes to someone commenting on Jewish people everyone gets super sensitive and treat the matter like it's code red. I except the same regardless of who it's about.

They get super sensitive when you post about firing up the ovens when it comes to Jews. Only an idiot wouldn't understand how offensive and morally bankrupt it would be to post such disgusting rhetoric. Do you understand?

I made a post about the Kaballah being a demonic practice. My reference to ovens was directed at that not regular Jews. It's been explained in my posts and you still gave me a week off regardless. You got super sensitive. I have paid my dues anyways and learned my lesson.

There's been a racial reference made against me here now, what action are you taking towards the matter?

I didn't see any so I'm not going to take any action.