Is badass rock music dying?

chrisms

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Rock used to be badass. Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Aerosmith... they, along with many other classic bands, were pumping out the best rock music ever between 1968-1980.

After the classic rock bands were done, we were treated with bands like Van Halen (the Roth years) and Guns 'n Roses which kept rock music alive. The genre survived another era with groups like Stone Temple Pilots, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains to keep to good times rolling.

Today, I can think of very few bands that still fit the definition of "badass rock." Audioslave comes to mind, with songs like Show Me How to Live and Cochise blasting the same attitude as we used to take for granted. Velvet Revolver's 'Slither' also brings me back, with its awesome riff and amazing solo.

The problem is this. Both Audioslave and Velvet Revolver aren't technically new. Chris Cornell, formerly of badass Soundgarden, sings with former Rage musicians playing. Scott Weiland, formerly of badass STP, sings for former GnR musicians playing.

Where are the new badasses? When Weiland shoots up a bit too much and is found 2 weeks later in his apartment, rotting, and Cornell turns wuss after having a few kids, who are we to rely on?

Nickelback, Simple Plan, Incubus, Hoobastank, Staind, Jet, LINKIN PARK?! The only ones with potential I can think of are Incubus and White Stripes (7 nation's solo is badass, Incubus would be better if not overplayed).
 

monk3y

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I think good rock has been dead for quite some time... but that is just my opinion.
 

skychief

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The Foo Fighters, while not new, are the only ones I really listen to now. The White Stripes have potential but but we will have to see if they have staying power as they are still kind of a gimmick.
 

chrisms

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Originally posted by: skychief
The Foo Fighters, while not new, are the only ones I really listen to now. The White Stripes have potential but but we will have to see if they have staying power as they are still kind of a gimmick.

You are correct, Foo Fighters are good. I forgot about them.

I don't like Incubus, but I respect their talent and hope to hear more of them once the radio stops playing it every 5 minutes.

I say the White Stripes have potential because in their 7 nation army video, Jack's solo is definately badass and brings me back to the good days of rock.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Those bands you listed that have potential all suck.
Incubus and the White Stripes DO NOT suck.

I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you, but yeah, they do suck....ESPECIALLY White Stripes.


Fingernails on a chalkboard>White Stripes>Britney Spears>Etc..


The only band I've heard recently that has some potential would be Jet.
 

hdeck

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not dead, just harder to find good stuff. most of it definately isn't on the radio either.
 

chrisms

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I disagree with the 80s comment. Soundgarden and Guns 'n Roses prove that wrong..

Jet is a wannabe AC/DC.

You can't always listen to hard to find stuff. The big rock bands, with huge shows and new albums which always show up the previous, were the best part of music.
 

pyonir

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how the fvck can you equate incubus with badass rock? that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard.
 

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Sorry Mods, I got a little excited.
 

silverpig

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The thing that really sucks is there's still a market for these bands. If a group came out that had the same style and feel as Zep, I'd buy their stuff for sure (provided they weren't a complete ripoff band). I haven't bought any cds in a long long time because there's nothing out there I want. Hell, I haven't even downloaded any music for a few years now either.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: silverpig
The thing that really sucks is there's still a market for these bands. If a group came out that had the same style and feel as Zep, I'd buy their stuff for sure (provided they weren't a complete ripoff band). I haven't bought any cds in a long long time because there's nothing out there I want. Hell, I haven't even downloaded any music for a few years now either.

I'm in the same boat as you.

The CDs I AM looking at buying are Jethro Tull and Led Zeplin anyway. :(
 

chrisms

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AC/DC hasn't had anything new since 2001. And I equate them with the Aerosmith, still together, but not really a band I would group with "today's music." Anything new they make just adds to their legacy.
 

xcript

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Originally posted by: Roger
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Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: chrisms
AC/DC hasn't had anything new since 2001. And I equate them with the Aerosmith, still together, but not really a band I would group with "today's music." Anything new they make just adds to their legacy.

Good! I don't want "TODAY'S MUSIC", I want AC/DC music.

If I wanted "Today's Music" I'd listen to the crap on the radio.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: silverpig
The thing that really sucks is there's still a market for these bands. If a group came out that had the same style and feel as Zep, I'd buy their stuff for sure (provided they weren't a complete ripoff band). I haven't bought any cds in a long long time because there's nothing out there I want. Hell, I haven't even downloaded any music for a few years now either.

I'm in the same boat as you.

The CDs I AM looking at buying are Jethro Tull and Led Zeplin anyway. :(

I'm looking at acquiring LPs for Led Zep. I have all of their cds (I think) ripped into mp3 on my hard drive, and a few mp3s I custom ripped myself off of DVDs. I kinda want to collect now. I just got II off of a friend for free :)
 

TheShiz

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only rock cd that i've liked that has come out in the past couple of years is Thursday "Full Collapse" give it a few spins and you won't notice the screaming so much and you will notice how great the songs are. unfortunately i didn't like their newer cd that much.