Is ATI intending to release, in the future, some AGP Video Card with R520 Core?

Franklogus

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Hi all!

Just would like to know if there is some possibility of ATI release some AGP based card with this core (R520). I have an AGP based Mobo, and I do not intend to change it to PCI-E within next 02 years; so, would be great if we could expect this attitude from ATI.
Currently, I have an ATI AIW X800XT, and would like, when (and IF) possible, to upgrade to some better video card (brand ATI). If I am not wrong, so far, the best AGP video card is the model X850XT-PE, with few headroom to performance? It don?t worth the buy, IMO. But, upgrading to a R520 core Video Card, would be a nice solution?

I have read, somewhere, that ATI could release, in the future, some AGP based card of the family X1800XT(X), or even X1900XT(X)? But I have read, too, that it will not happen? So, the doubt keeps on?

Thanks in advance for any information about this matter!
 

broly8877

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I don't think an AGP X1800/1900 is gonna happen. (can't say for sure, but it's very, very, very unlikely)

Gainward is planning on releasing an AGP 7800GT with 512MB of VRAM I believe, but for an insane price... ($450+)

Buy the GS, or upgrade to a PCIe board.

Or in my case, buy an eVGA GS, then "step up" to a 7900GTX/GT late june/early july in time for conroe.
 

JK949

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Don't be suprised if Ati does come out with an agp version of the 1800 series card.
Nvidia did a survey and discovered that there was still a large comsumer base of
agp users out there. More than they expected to find. Believe it or not around
52 percent of the game playing market is still useing agp based motherboards.
There are alot of people with nforce3 systems running last gen cpu's that can
still play todays games well. Heck, I have an Gigabyte nforce3 board that I installed
FEAR on, borrowed the game, and from what I played of it it ran pretty good.
 

ronnn

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Originally posted by: JK949
Don't be suprised if Ati does come out with an agp version of the 1800 series card.
Nvidia did a survey and discovered that there was still a large comsumer base of
agp users out there. More than they expected to find. Believe it or not around
52 percent of the game playing market is still useing agp based motherboards.
There are alot of people with nforce3 systems running last gen cpu's that can
still play todays games well. Heck, I have an Gigabyte nforce3 board that I installed
FEAR on, borrowed the game, and from what I played of it it ran pretty good.

The rate of tech change has really slowed down, so platforms are remaining viable much longer.

 

Golgatha

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Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: JK949
Don't be suprised if Ati does come out with an agp version of the 1800 series card.
Nvidia did a survey and discovered that there was still a large comsumer base of
agp users out there. More than they expected to find. Believe it or not around
52 percent of the game playing market is still useing agp based motherboards.
There are alot of people with nforce3 systems running last gen cpu's that can
still play todays games well. Heck, I have an Gigabyte nforce3 board that I installed
FEAR on, borrowed the game, and from what I played of it it ran pretty good.

The rate of tech change has really slowed down, so platforms are remaining viable much longer.


[Beat dead horse....]Yeap, I'm still annoyed that I had to sell off almost my entire AGP based system in order to "upgrade" to a PCIe motherboard. I'm even more annoyed that most PCI expansion cards haven't been released in a PCIe1x format even though motherboards now come with only 1-3 PCI slots (less if you do SLI/Crossfire). [\Beat dead horse....]
 

bunnyfubbles

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You have to draw the line somewhere, it doesn't matter if there is a market for AGP, PCI-e is the future. The longer we hold on to old/dead technology, the longer it takes for newer and better technology to get into our hands.

I know it can suck, I recently came across another PCI-e motherboard but I don't have another PCI-e video card, however I do have several AGP cards lying around that would be perfect if I could use them. instead I only have a really old PCI video card that has to be used throwing the option of gaming on that system pretty much out the door.
 

Franklogus

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Thanks a lot for all your opinions, buddies!

Well, reading all your posts, it seems that ATI won't release any new better AGP card for us, "poor" customers... Personally, I do not intend to move to PCI-e in next future (here, in Brazil, the hardware prices are very more expensive than USA or Europe - a bunch of taxes), because I think I have a reasonable rig (and it is only 1,5 years old...).

So, my next question is: how much NVidia 7800GS is better than my current AIW X800XT?. I know there are some reviews where I can compare these cards (if I am not wrong, besides the differences of internal structure, these two cards have almost the same performance), but my REAL doubt concerns to "image quality"...

I was, in the long past, user of Nvidia video cards, but, after I changed to ATI (in function of its supposed better image quality), I didn't more returned to NVidia. So, after some years, has NVidia got the same pattern of quality than ATI? I got used to run only racing games (GTL, GTR, RBR, LFS, etc); so, if I will move to 7800GS, will I have some TANGIBLE gain of performance and will keep the same image quality of my current video card? Does it worth the purchase?

Thanks in advance for any additional opinion/information! :)
 

ddogg

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i suggest you dont buy a 7800GS...you wont see a big difference. better to save that money toward a new PCIe system.