Is Athlon II X2 245e any good today?

[Compman55]

Not knowledgable about this chip. How is the performance? Would this be on par with a C2D of some kind?

 

[ShintaiDK]

You can use the bench here:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/39

They only got a 240e, but thats just 100Mhz less. Then you can compare to a selection of C2Ds.

 

[sm625]

Clock for clock I would still take a C2D E8xxx, due mainly to its larger cache. The athlon would have to be 15% higher clocked for me to prefer it over say an E8400 or E8600.

 

[Eeqmcsq]

Using passmark as a rough estimate, the 245e is somewhere on par with the upper end of the 65nm Core 2 Duo and the lower end of the 45nm Core 2 Duo.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/midlow_range_cpus.html

 

[DominionSeraph]

They lag behind the higher-end C2D's in many tasks because of their lack of cache, but when that doesn't come into play they're comparable clock-for-clock.

Comparison with equal cache E4700:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/114?vs=63

But go to an E6750...
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/114?vs=60

 

[Abwx]

Clock for clock I would still take a C2D E8xxx, due mainly to its larger cache. The athlon would have to be 15% higher clocked for me to prefer it over say an E8400 or E8600.

The 245 is a 45W chip while said C2D are 65W, at this TDP there s the 280 at 3.6Ghz or so..

 

[nemesismk2]

I used to own amd athlon ii x2 240 which ran at 2.8Ghz. X2 240 has no level 3 cache but was okay for general use but gaming was limited some what by lack of level3 cache. i think the x2 245 was 2.9ghz.

i replaced all of my regor cpu systems with amd fx 4300 which is a much better cpu but am3+ only.

 

[DominionSeraph]

The 245 is a 45W chip while said C2D are 65W, at this TDP there s the 280 at 3.6Ghz or so..

You know you're taking money away from your AMD by fanboying for an out of production chip, right?

 

[Abwx]

You know you're taking money away from your AMD by fanboying for an out of production chip, right?

Where is the fanboism if not in you brain.??.

Did i suggest to buy anything in my post.?.

Actualy all i pointed is that a 45W chip was compared to a 65W chip, if you see fanboism in this you must be quite biaised because all i did is to speak about specifications.

 

[jhu]

Not knowledgable about this chip. How is the performance? Would this be on par with a C2D of some kind?

Before any meaningful answer can be given, you need to tell us what the computer will be used for.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Before any meaningful answer can be given, you need to tell us what the computer will be used for.

And what new parts etc. Since you can build a very cheap new one based on a Haswell Celeron instead of messing around with old obsolete tech with questionable support.

 

[Compman55]

Its an HP all in one with this chip. Had spyware so I recovered and ran updates. This person is going to use it until windows 10 is released. It will be used for internet, online small games (cards, poker, gambling) and the basic email, word docs, and digital pics. Nothing intense.

Hard drive is a 2.5" form factor. So I think that is why it feels like a slug. Coupled by bloatware that HP forces upon the retail market.

I built a Ivy Bridge G2020 based system for just a tad over 200.

 

[jhu]

Its an HP all in one with this chip. Had spyware so I recovered and ran updates. This person is going to use it until windows 10 is released. It will be used for internet, online small games (cards, poker, gambling) and the basic email, word docs, and digital pics. Nothing intense.

Hard drive is a 2.5" form factor. So I think that is why it feels like a slug. Coupled by bloatware that HP forces upon the retail market.

I built a Ivy Bridge G2020 based system for just a tad over 200.

Replace hard disk with an SSD, do a clean install of Windows, have at least 4GB RAM. That should be more than enough for it's intended purpose.

 

[Denithor]

jhu is right on the money here. Those dual-core chips are still perfectly acceptable for light duty service, especially if paired with a discrete GPU that can handle Flash/Silverlight/etc acceleration for smooth video streaming/playback.

And, as mentioned, an SSD is NECESSARY for that "snappy" feel when doing anything. Fresh install of Windows on SSD and it will feel like a modern machine and be quite serviceable for years to come.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Don't even need a GPU. My X2 5200+ could do 1080p in software. An Athlon II may not be worlds faster than that, but it is faster.

 

[Lorne]

Gaming, Not so good any more.
Home theater, Works fine, I made one with a II-250 and got it toned down to 35w during movies and burning, Ramps up good when you need it.
Closet NAS, Works great.

 

[DrMrLordX]

OP, if you are into overclocking and suchlike, I would recommend that you not take a stab at the x2-245e. It is a C3 chip, which is good, but there are (probably) no unlockable variants which is a lot less fun. I picked up an x2-220 recently, unlocked it to three cores and 6mb L3 cache, and run it at 3.6 ghz in that state without any voltage adjustments (well, there's HT/SB voltage bumps, but that's for the motherboard).

If you do your homework, there's great potential for these chips to be a big value-add. Worst-case scenario is that you get stuck with a dual-core CPU which is what you paid for in the first place. As a dual-core, it won't beat a C2D at the same clockspeed sorry to say, though it will keep things fairly close. Unlocked to 3-4 cores, then yeah it'll beat a C2D on anything that can use more than two cores.

 

[escrow4]

jhu is right on the money here. Those dual-core chips are still perfectly acceptable for light duty service, especially if paired with a discrete GPU that can handle Flash/Silverlight/etc acceleration for smooth video streaming/playback.

And, as mentioned, an SSD is NECESSARY for that "snappy" feel when doing anything. Fresh install of Windows on SSD and it will feel like a modern machine and be quite serviceable for years to come.

I disagree. I had a G1610 which is a rough equivalent and it was slow compared to an i3 3220. You could feel it. As in the other thread office box's are run into the ground and will be used for years. I wouldn't want to be stuck with the bare minimum in that case.

 

[waffleironhead]

It's still faster than the small core(atom, etc) offerings from either camp.

 

[Eeqmcsq]

Another vote here for replacing that 2.5 HDD with an SSD. Remove that "last bottleneck" and add some snappiness to the PC.

 

[schmuckley]

No

 

[JWade]

I have to agree with jhu also, get a ssd and it will feel like a completely different system. seeing that it uses a 2.5" drive, that's what is definitely slowing it down. a 245e even today for what you described it will be used for is still plenty of horse power.