Is Apple dead if/when Steve Jobs dies?

[mrCide]

Hold on a sec while I shout down the hall.

Shawn: Hey do any of you guys own an Apple computer?
no
no
no
no
whats that?
no
no

The company has spoken

Do people with blind hate realize it or are they in denial?

 

[ShawnD1]

Do people with blind hate realize it or are they in denial?

Go ask your own coworkers. Ask them how many computers they own, and how many of them are Apple brand computers. You'll be lucky to find even 1 in 20 people who own just 1 Apple computer. At the same time, all 20 of those 20 people own at least 1 Windows computer. The nerdy guy might even have a few Linux or BSD systems kicking around.

 

[zinfamous]

I think Apple has a shit-ton of capital and accumulated a lot of true believers to keep them successful after the pater familius is eaten by cancer.

That being said, I don't think they will be able to maintain such a high level of success as they have now, as with the tru believers, they simply won't be able to accept that things are "quite right" when their God is dead.

:\

Stock will almost certainly plummet when he croaks, but should recover substantially enough

 

[zinfamous]

Go ask your own coworkers. Ask them how many computers they own, and how many of them are Apple brand computers. You'll be lucky to find even 1 in 20 people who own just 1 Apple computer. At the same time, all 20 of those 20 people own at least 1 Windows computer. The nerdy guy might even have a few Linux or BSD systems kicking around.

In my department, both amongst staff and admins, and all the researchers, it's probably 95% Apple or die. Sucks, really.

but that's simply how the field has always been. Lots of people in this line of work have been writing code for years and years, and much of the software that is used is much easier to work with on OS-based systems.

Also, when you live in the Bay Area and especially on Cal campus--you'd be hard-pressed to find a Windows system. Of course, the people here see that as an accurate representation of the world. They really have no clue...

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Do people with blind hate realize it or are they in denial?

Ask that same question on any university campus and it will be the complete opposite.

 

[mb]

Lol at the Apple haters. Apple makes great products but they are unfortunately overpriced.

I think the company will do fine without Jobs when he dies or retires. The real star of Apple is Johnny Ive and I'd be a lot more worried if he left.

I'm not even taking price into consideration. They may have attractive looking products but the software they all run is garbage. Mac OS has always been and always will be a steaming pile. I wouldn't use it on my own machines if it were free. Thanks to the Virginia public school system and some jackass at Apple for making their products so cheap to educators, I've unfortunately had experience with it since the early 1990s. The appearance of Mac OS greatly improved with 10, but it is still garbage in use.
Also, iOS is nothing special. itunes is a joke.

 

[PricklyPete]

I'm not even taking price into consideration. They may have attractive looking products but the software they all run is garbage. Mac OS has always been and always will be a steaming pile. I wouldn't use it on my own machines if it were free. Thanks to the Virginia public school system and some jackass at Apple for making their products so cheap to educators, I've unfortunately had experience with it since the early 1990s. The appearance of Mac OS greatly improved with 10, but it is still garbage in use.
Also, iOS is nothing special. itunes is a joke.

That's right...going from Mac OS 9 to OS X was just an appearance thing. I can see you are quite educated in the subject matter and I will take full faith in your experience and opinion.

 

[cheezy321]

You sound as if you're impressed by what executives do.

"You guys do some marketing or something. I'll be having sex with 30 expensive prostitutes."

Wow, you are one major douche. I dont doubt you have no friends with a mac, probably because you have no friends in the first place.

 

[mb]

That's right...going from Mac OS 9 to OS X was just an appearance thing. I can see you are quite educated in the subject matter and I will take full faith in your experience and opinion.

Did I say it was just an appearance thing? Don't be think headed. :thumbsdown:

 

[cheezy321]

Go ask your own coworkers. Ask them how many computers they own, and how many of them are Apple brand computers. You'll be lucky to find even 1 in 20 people who own just 1 Apple computer. At the same time, all 20 of those 20 people own at least 1 Windows computer. The nerdy guy might even have a few Linux or BSD systems kicking around.

Right now, there are 200+ mac minis in the office I work in. About 40% of the people I work for have a macbook pro at home.

So kindly STFU with your anecdotal evidence because my anecdotal evidence just kicked your anecdotal evidence in its anecdotal balls.

 

[Cogman]

Apple is such an interesting company in a lot of ways. Their computers are currently surfing on the tailcoats of their Iphone/Ipod industry. (I would argue that to some extent so is the Ipad). It will be interesting to see if this keeps going. People are boarder line fanatical about Apple products (one way or another) so I don't see it going away any time soon.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Do people with blind hate realize it or are they in denial?

come to the bay area, go to starbucks, everyone owns iphone 4 and a macbook pro

 

[MrX8503]

Go ask your own coworkers. Ask them how many computers they own, and how many of them are Apple brand computers. You'll be lucky to find even 1 in 20 people who own just 1 Apple computer. At the same time, all 20 of those 20 people own at least 1 Windows computer. The nerdy guy might even have a few Linux or BSD systems kicking around.

Lol, this guy is serious. I thought he was being sarcastic.

I provided a link with data, you....provided anecdotal evidence? lol

 

[ShawnD1]

come to the bay area, go to starbucks, everyone owns iphone 4 and a macbook pro

That must be the richest area in the world if everyone has a $600 phone and a $2000 laptop.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/cal...-deficit-likely-to-be-12-billion-or-more.html
People who buy ridiculously expensive electronics are bad with money? I'm absolutely shocked.

 

[ShawnD1]

Lol, this guy is serious. I thought he was being sarcastic.

I provided a link with data, you....provided anecdotal evidence? lol

Fine I'll give a real link if you're looking for real data.

http://www.bnet.com/blog/technology...worldwide-apple-mac-market-share-is-flat/3923

Percentage Commercial Global Market Share in Units
Apple 2.56%
Others 97.44%

Percentage Consumer Global Market Share in Units
Apple 4.37%
Others 95.63%

Well look at that, Shawn's initial estimate of less than 1 in 20 people owning an Apple turns out to be accurate. Guess which one of us lives in some magic dream world where people buy Apple computers in large quantities.

 

[zinfamous]

That's right...going from Mac OS 9 to OS X was just an appearance thing. I can see you are quite educated in the subject matter and I will take full faith in your experience and opinion.

Did I say it was just an appearance thing? Don't be think headed. :thumbsdown:

See, Prickly Pete? you should just stop thinking! that's the kind of poison that leads to wild bouts of fanboyism!

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

I think Apple is fine w/ about 10% of the market. Even with 10% that's still billions of dollars of revenue.

 

[cheezy321]

Fine I'll give a real link if you're looking for real data.

http://www.bnet.com/blog/technology...worldwide-apple-mac-market-share-is-flat/3923


Well look at that, Shawn's initial estimate of less than 1 in 20 people owning an Apple turns out to be accurate. Guess which one of us lives in some magic dream world where people buy Apple computers in large quantities.

Dear god, you must not have a fully functioning brain.

Heres an article from a WEEK AGO that directly refutes your article from 4 months ago:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2...market-share-in-us-lenovo-climbs-globally.ars

"Apple—posting a nearly 20 percent unit sales growth—to capture 10.5 percent of the US market and to slide right into third place in the US."

And then you try and connect the state of Californias government debt to them buying macbooks? Your reasoning is seriously messed up and borderline retarded.

 

[Patranus]

I find it funny how the linux/unix fanboys here hate Apple so much.

 

[Kaido]

I think it'll get a lot more open. When Jobs was on leave with cancer, the workers took their opportunity to start pushing out stuff that users actually wanted, like copy & paste. It'll be interesting to see what happens when he retires (or otherwise ).

 

[Nintendesert]

Slightly hilarious that there's an "if" clause in the title, as though we all don't die eventually.

 

[mb]

See, Prickly Pete? you should just stop thinking! that's the kind of poison that leads to wild bouts of fanboyism!

Well if he did any thinking he might have noticed his comment about my post was incorrect.

For all the "work" that went into 10 over the years, all they have truly accomplished was making it look better. Sure they've added tons of 'features' that helped Mac OS from sliding into obscurity, but it is still inferior to other OSs.

But hey, it sure does look better.

 

[PricklyPete]

See, Prickly Pete? you should just stop thinking! that's the kind of poison that leads to wild bouts of fanboyism!

lol

 

[PricklyPete]

Well if he did any thinking he might have noticed his comment about my post was incorrect.

For all the "work" that went into 10 over the years, all they have truly accomplished was making it look better. Sure they've added tons of 'features' that helped Mac OS from sliding into obscurity, but it is still inferior to other OSs.

But hey, it sure does look better.

Um...I'm not going to argue with you over whether OSX is inferior to other OSs...because we will get nowhere. The truth is that OSX was a completely new (or really copy of a different) OS that Mac OS9. You are correct that your comment did not state that appearance is the only change made...but clearly you have a "think" head if you believe that there wasn't a HUGE improvement from OS9 to OSX. By making the statements that you are making...it sounds like you really don't know what the true differences are between Mac OS9 and OSX.

 

[mb]

Um...I'm not going to argue with you over whether OSX is inferior to other OSs...because we will get nowhere. The truth is that OSX was a completely new (or really copy of a different) OS that Mac OS9. You are correct that your comment did not state that appearance is the only change made...but clearly you have a "think" head if you believe that there wasn't a HUGE improvement from OS9 to OSX. By making the statements that you are making...it sounds like you really don't know what the true differences are between Mac OS9 and OSX.

Again, you're trying to put words in my mouth and argue a point I never stated. I never said there wasn't a huge improvement from 9 to 10. The point you're missing is that even with all those improvements, it's still garbage. They can improve it to the best of their ability and make it the best Mac OS ever, but that doesn't mean it is a good OS.
Making huge improvements to a terrible product doesn't make it a good one.