Is anyone else SICK of companies not meeting release dates? Why is it that most companies fail to meet their own dates?

Polish3d

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Well, I just found out that ES Oblivion may not even be released until 2006, and frankly it ****** pisses me off. I was just going to have more time to play as my semester wrapped up and another disappointment, I was looking forward to this game more than any other. I am absolutely fed up with companies that hype release dates and then delay, delay, delay.
 

Schadenfroh

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I would rather them miss their own dates than release a bug riddled rushed product that i can barely play.
 

Pete

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Yeah, better late and good than early and annoying. Plus, the game world's gonna be huge, so you'd expect it to take more time to bugfix.
 

Unkno

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delay=something wrong with the game, whether it's bugs/exploits or just plain not enough shipping quantity....

The release dates of most games are not planned for bugs and exploits, meaning some companies that just quickly release games might just not test their product thoroughly....
 

Polish3d

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I'd rather now with a patch or two ... if you dont want it till its "better", dont buy it until a patch comes out. These damn things always need patches just because of the unpredictable nature of the real world

Frankly I'm just sick of companies having an absolute inability to meet their promises

ATI
Valve
Bethesda
DICE


The only one I really cared about though was ES Ob. because I partly built my PC for it and expected to have it out when I'll have time to play the ****** thing.
 

mdchesne

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you can't really expect something as complicated as computer hardware (or for that matter, software) to always come out on the date it's said to come out...unless the company overestimated their release by a few months(buffer zone). You're thinking in the wrong time frame. perhaps, hardware release dates should be "expected" a year after they'd be ready to come out (normal release date)...that way, when the company gets everything ready for release... it comes out "early!" and then everyone is happy. the truth is, I'd rather see something come out months later than expected than to come out with bugs or flaws (as mentions previously)
 

Polish3d

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Ah Bullcrap


Nvidia did it. It can be done. Other companies do it fine.


I could care less about a couple bugs that can be fixed with a patch while I'm already playing the damn thing.
 

gac009

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you are throwing a fit and being irrational.
Its their product and they can release it when ever they feel it is ready to be sold or not at all.
A release date is not a contract or promise and they dont owe you anything by naming one; its just a day when you can expect to be able to buy said product from them.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: gac009
you are throwing a fit and being irrational.
Its their product and they can release it when ever they feel it is ready to be sold or not at all.
A release date is not a contract or promise and they dont owe you anything by naming one; its just a day when you can expect to be able to buy said product from them.

I know I am throwing a fit, but to say that the company doesn't have any real obligation to live up to their promised release date is equivalent to saying that they dont have an obligation to live up to promises made to customers.

Creative labs released their X-Fi line when promised, Nvidia released their GTX in quantity, other software labels can release games on time, I'm frankly sick of companies that promise a release date and then the thing doesn't come out until months and months later.

 

nitromullet

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Creative labs released their X-Fi line when promised, Nvidia released their GTX in quantity, other software labels can release games on time, I'm frankly sick of companies that promise a release date and then the thing doesn't come out until months and months later.

Funny that you should mention the X-Fi.... Go check out the creative forums, where they are complaining about a rushed launch targeted towards the enthusiast crowd that that didn't include drivers for Win 64-bit.
 

Shamrock

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No, what I am sick of, is releasing a piece of software and 3 months later, you get NO support and they abandon the project altogether

Example:
Tribes Vengenace
Mobil 1 Rally
 

Dainas

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Not until 2006 >_<.... well I'm willing to bet theres more that needs to be done than what could be covered in a patch. I've long suspected that TES4 Oblivion was going to take longer to release due to the nature of the genre and the fact that Betheseda seems to actualy be a pretty small developer dispite its fame. I'm pretty furious too because now I have nothing worth looking forward to playing until it releases.... and when it does I'll wont have much time to play it.

Ohwell, you want to see what rushing can do to what should be a great successor, play KOTOR2. It was not buggy, its had a third of its content cut out to meet deadlines. In the same way I was about KOTOR>>KOTOR2; if Oblivion is a dissapointment after Morrowind dispite how hard an act it has to fallow.... I will be livid.
 

gac009

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Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: gac009
you are throwing a fit and being irrational.
Its their product and they can release it when ever they feel it is ready to be sold or not at all.
A release date is not a contract or promise and they dont owe you anything by naming one; its just a day when you can expect to be able to buy said product from them.

I know I am throwing a fit, but to say that the company doesn't have any real obligation to live up to their promised release date is equivalent to saying that they dont have an obligation to live up to promises made to customers.

Creative labs released their X-Fi line when promised, Nvidia released their GTX in quantity, other software labels can release games on time, I'm frankly sick of companies that promise a release date and then the thing doesn't come out until months and months later.



But its not a promise, its just a day they hope to have it for sale.
 

Polish3d

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I don't interpret a stated release date as such.

An "Estimated release date" yes.

But not "This game will be released on xxx"


I have just been disappointed lately in the tech industry in general TBH, and this really 'broke the camel's' back so to speak, because of all the games I had been looking forward to, this one too fails to meet its stated date.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: gac009
you are throwing a fit and being irrational.
Its their product and they can release it when ever they feel it is ready to be sold or not at all.
A release date is not a contract or promise and they dont owe you anything by naming one; its just a day when you can expect to be able to buy said product from them.

I know I am throwing a fit, but to say that the company doesn't have any real obligation to live up to their promised release date is equivalent to saying that they dont have an obligation to live up to promises made to customers.

Creative labs released their X-Fi line when promised, Nvidia released their GTX in quantity, other software labels can release games on time, I'm frankly sick of companies that promise a release date and then the thing doesn't come out until months and months later.

You're driving in your car. You promised your best buddy that you would pick him up at the airport at 6pm sharp. You are now obligated to pick this person up because you said you would. On your way, you notice your temperature gauge rising slowly and notice a little steam jetting from under your hood. You have to pull over and check it. You find a radiator hose has sprung a leak and you were gradually loosing coolant. You are stuck and have to call a tow truck. You can no longer meet your obligation to your friend.

Should you now be considered a person who cannot be trusted and cannot meet your obligations and make empty promises?

 

lifeguard1999

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: gac009
you are throwing a fit and being irrational.
Its their product and they can release it when ever they feel it is ready to be sold or not at all.
A release date is not a contract or promise and they dont owe you anything by naming one; its just a day when you can expect to be able to buy said product from them.

I know I am throwing a fit, but to say that the company doesn't have any real obligation to live up to their promised release date is equivalent to saying that they dont have an obligation to live up to promises made to customers.

Creative labs released their X-Fi line when promised, Nvidia released their GTX in quantity, other software labels can release games on time, I'm frankly sick of companies that promise a release date and then the thing doesn't come out until months and months later.

You're driving in your car. You promised your best buddy that you would pick him up at the airport at 6pm sharp. You are now obligated to pick this person up because you said you would. On your way, you notice your temperature gauge rising slowly and notice a little steam jetting from under your hood. You have to pull over and check it. You find a radiator hose has sprung a leak and you were gradually loosing coolant. You are stuck and have to call a tow truck. You can no longer meet your obligation to your friend.

Should you now be considered a person who cannot be trusted and cannot meet your obligations and make empty promises?

:thumbsup:
 

CU

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I have spent days finding a memory error that was the result of a typo. The typo was in a totally differnent file than where the memory error was accuring. It is to easy to make a simple mistake that can cost you days in programming to expect a release data to always be correct. I assume hardware design has the same problems, since most hardware is simulated in software first. I try my best to never give anyone a release date for anything I am writing. Although management never seems to like this. They think a typo is easy to find because spell check finds it.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: gac009
you are throwing a fit and being irrational.
Its their product and they can release it when ever they feel it is ready to be sold or not at all.
A release date is not a contract or promise and they dont owe you anything by naming one; its just a day when you can expect to be able to buy said product from them.

I know I am throwing a fit, but to say that the company doesn't have any real obligation to live up to their promised release date is equivalent to saying that they dont have an obligation to live up to promises made to customers.

Creative labs released their X-Fi line when promised, Nvidia released their GTX in quantity, other software labels can release games on time, I'm frankly sick of companies that promise a release date and then the thing doesn't come out until months and months later.

You're driving in your car. You promised your best buddy that you would pick him up at the airport at 6pm sharp. You are now obligated to pick this person up because you said you would. On your way, you notice your temperature gauge rising slowly and notice a little steam jetting from under your hood. You have to pull over and check it. You find a radiator hose has sprung a leak and you were gradually loosing coolant. You are stuck and have to call a tow truck. You can no longer meet your obligation to your friend.

Should you now be considered a person who cannot be trusted and cannot meet your obligations and make empty promises?



If it happens almost EVERY SINGLE TIME ?

Absolutely!

Thanks for helping with that analogy
 

atybimf

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Developers should always set the release date to: when it's done. Otherwise, people get their hopes up, sometimes get overhyped (halo 2 anyone) and are a bit dissapointed with the game or product.
 

Polish3d

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Not if people get pissed off and spend their money elsewhere.

Elder Scrolls in November: Superb, next-gen, exciting.

Elder scrolls around the time of Gears of War and other next-gen games?

Not that interesting.