Is anybody or everybody switching to Radeon?

[Specialist]

I have looked at the poll of which cars are used. And i noticed that 60% have the Radeon.
I will buy a new card in 3 Months (replace my geforce 256 DDR) should i get a Radeon? or some other card? Why did so many of you switch to Radeon about 2 Month ago nobody even heard about it.

 

[John]

The switch was due to all of the rave reviews the card was getting, and the fact they are being sold in the F/S forum for about the same price and a GTS. I am tempted, but my 64MB GTS is fine (for now).

 

[utopia]

Radeon is king in overall 2d/3d performance (image quality), but GTS has the RAW 3D speed...

 

[Eli]

Yep, I'll be switching over. Well. If you could call it that. I'll be switching from my Creative Labs RivaTNT (Yes, that's not a typo, TNT1)


*drools at the thought of a Radeon AIW..*



Doesen't the Radeon beat the GTS in 32bit performance? Maybe not the Ultra.. but the Radeon isn't 500 bucks, either...

 

[glen]

<< Radeon is king in overall 2d/3d performance (image quality), >>



I am not sure this is true. Can you provide any evidence?

 

[Zeeliv]

That poll only has 2 choices. I'm sure the actual percentage of people with Radeons here is tiny.

 

[Do'Urden]

Well, I'm gona get one, I just sent Hawk an email about it.

 

[RagingGuardian]

Can't wait to get my hand on the Radeon. What's taking so long???

 

[Shagga]

I'm gunna get one for a keyring.

 

[Specialist]

If I understand it right everybody in this Thread wants to get a Radeon? Why prove that it's better. I believe it is but i don't have any solid proof.

 

[glen]

Maybe it is better.
I don't know.
What do you think a Radeon does better than a GF2?

 

[Robor]

glen: It's widely accepted that the Radeon has better 2D image quality, especially in higher resolutions. I haven't used a GeForce myself but others who have seen the 2 cards in the same system prefer the Radeon's 2D.

GTS has the raw speed, especially in professional apps. Radeon has excellent 2D and is nearly as fast as the GTS in 32bit in most cases and somewhat faster in others. The Radeon also has excellent hardware DVD and video in/out. I own one and it's a pretty sweet card...

Rob

 

[Gadgetslave]

The Matrox G400 /Max models are still unrivaled in 2D performance.

Right now I wouldn't even consider buying a new Vid Card. It's just a wasted investment. 3 month from now there will be the new &quot;DirectX8&quot; cards available both from ATI and NVidia. The current Radeon supports some of DX8 new features, but not all. And the Geforce 2 Cards won't offer any of the new DX8 features at all.

 

[glen]

<< glen: It's widely accepted that the Radeon has better 2D image quality >>


Yeah, I am aware that folks tend to think this.
I bet most people believe it because they read it somewhere, on this message board perhaps.
But, I can not find any evidence of Radeon having better quality. Does Anand mention it in his review?

 

[Sunner]

I'd hang on to the DDR until the next gen cards show up.
If you had a V3/TNT2 I could see a reason to upgrade, but a DDR keeps up pretty well with just about every game out there today.

I have a GF DDR myself BTW, gotta say it was a damn good investment, no vid card has lasted this long before to me

 

[StickHead]

I used to have an ATI video card. Then I tried to update the drivers. Hello nVidia!!!!

 

[rmblam]

Radeon MAXX and Radeon Pro are coming for a low $$$.$$ I am sure. Ouch!

I just switched from my 2d modded geforce2 MX to the Radeon 64 DDR. I love the DVD quality and yes the 2d is better. So far with the virgin drivers I have not gotten much better in 3d mark and Q3 but what can you expect. Once the drivers mature and I figure out the best tweak arrangement I am sure it'll be much better. Where the radeon excels is in 32 bit max mode based on my observations.

As mentioned, Hawk is selling them for a friend over in the For Sale area. I think $250 for a $400 card is a sweet deal don't you. I was very pleased with the price and service.

 

[Radboy]

Radeon DDR 32MB, upgraded from V3-3K.

I have read many posts complaining of fuzzy 2D from the GTS, and quite a few who had the GTS and replaced it w/ a Radeon, noting a dramatic diff in 2D image quality - especially at higher rez'es. I'll take the word of a bunch (noy just a single) of posters here oveer a reviewer anyday. This is where ppl tell it like it is. When it sux, they say, 'It sux'.

 

[glen]

I just ask someone who has used both cards on multiple monitors. He replied, &quot;From my personal experience the Radeon definately looks sharper at the highest resolutions then a GeForce on Trinitron based monitors. The monitor that I am currently using I can't tell the difference at all, but on both KDs and Sony offerings it is noticeable.&quot;

 

[arthurb1]

Glen...your friend is correct...you need a high quality monitor to really tell, but I can finally run at 1600x1220 and read the text with this 64MB DDR Readon. Was running a CLA2 before...btw, a 64 MB DDR raedon can be had for about $250...that is less than a GTS, and what I paid for my raedon over here For Sale Forum

 

[Specialist]

On firing squad.com they tested the V5 5500 and it performed worse than my Geforce 256DDR ! Is that really so? They said it had 72 fps on 1024x768x16 I have 75 but they ran it on a 1.1 GHZ athlon i only have a 900.

 

[LXi]

<<But, I can not find any evidence of Radeon having better quality>>

You can ask any GF2 owner that plays Diablo2, one word: horrible. Radeon doesnt have this problem, V5 doesnt have this problem, G400 doesnt have this problem.

 

[BFG10K]

They said it had 72 fps on 1024x768x16 I have 75 but they ran it on a 1.1 GHZ athlon i only have a 900.

That sounds about right. Tom's Hardware had a GF DDR getting 70 fps and the V5 getting 67 fps in Quake 3 High Quality at 1024 x 768. This was with a 1 GHz P3.

I have read many posts complaining of fuzzy 2D from the GTS, and quite a few who had the GTS and replaced it w/ a Radeon, noting a dramatic diff in 2D image quality - especially at higher rez'es.

The issue of nVidia's 2D has been discussed at length before and what causes it. You can do three things:
(1) Return the board and get a new one.
(2) Lower the refresh rates.
(3) Do a little hardware hacking (I doubt anyone would do this except somebody as brave as Sharkeeper).