Question Is an RTX 3070 really not a lot faster than a RX 7600?

[ibex333]

So, I got a new computer on sale and decided to test my old Dell OEM RTX 3070 vs my "new" RX 7600. (I was well aware what I'm getting. I got the new PC because of its newer mobo, ram and CPU. )

Anyways, most benchmarks I did showed only around 2-4 fps difference in games I tested! I am somewhat shocked.

I tested Company of Heroes 2, Diablo 4, Days Gone and Atomic Heart. All games showed just few frames more with RTX 3070, with Diablo 4 actually doing few FPS WORSE!!! Atomic Heart was the only exception which had the lows of around 192-200+ on RTX 3070 vs lows of around 165 on the RX 7600.

All tests were done with "High" preset, @ 1440p. the CPU used was Ryzen 5 7600

I then did a 3DMark demo test for "Steel Nomad" which showed a descent 37.38% lead for the RTX 3070. Thats much more in line with what most comparison sites show for these cards.

Any idea what's going on here? Is it the specific games I tested? Is it the "OEM" part? My 3070 has been cleaned before testing and is still fairly "new" as I haven't used it much.

 

[Seba]

Check the CPU load.

Increase graphics quality settings.

 

[Shmee]

Only 16GB of RAM though in the new one?

 

[blckgrffn]

I don’t think the “OEM”ness matters.

It’s particularly telling that a benchmark says one thing but game testing says another.

You are also looking at lows. It’s more common for comparison sites to focus down average FPS since lows can be so nebulous.

If you had a 7800x3D that was ensuring best case scenario CPU performance in those games it might also change the situation, in my experience it’s sort of easy to have the CPU be generating the low number when explosions happen, etc. The 7600 is a good CPU but in these games it might be the bottleneck at certain times.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I don’t think the “OEM”ness matters.

It’s particularly telling that a benchmark says one thing but game testing says another.

You are also looking at lows. It’s more common for comparison sites to focus down average FPS since lows can be so nebulous.

If you had a 7800x3D that was ensuring best case scenario CPU performance in those games it might also change the situation, in my experience it’s sort of easy to have the CPU be generating the low number when explosions happen, etc. The 7600 is a good CPU but in these games it might be the bottleneck at certain times.

16GB of 5200MT/s ain't helping. Is it even 2 sticks? Probably not. Cooling is always garbage on cheap prebuilts; wonder what the load temps on the CPU are like. Bloatware, old drivers; could be a laundry list of fail.

 

[mikeymikec]

I don’t think the “OEM”ness matters.

A caveat I'd add to this: if OEM product name is a deviation on what is considered to be the normal product name (e.g. "special edition"); or for example a customer's HP desktop which has an Intel Core i5-720 in and has the distinction of the only desktop core i5 I have ever seen which is a dual-core CPU rather than quad-core. Got to love HP (and Intel for going along with it)...

 

[blckgrffn]

16GB of 5200MT/s ain't helping. Is it even 2 sticks? Probably not. Cooling is always garbage on cheap prebuilts; wonder what the load temps on the CPU are like. Bloatware, old drivers; could be a laundry list of fail.

Ah, I didn’t see the specs of the new PC. For some reason I thought he was moving from a prebuilt to a self built PC and decided to test the “old” 3070 that had come in his Dell or whatever against the “new” 7600.

Not sure how I thought that.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

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[SteveGrabowski]

So, I got a new computer on sale and decided to test my old Dell OEM RTX 3070 vs my "new" RX 7600. (I was well aware what I'm getting. I got the new PC because of its newer mobo, ram and CPU. )

Anyways, most benchmarks I did showed only around 2-4 fps difference in games I tested! I am somewhat shocked.

I tested Company of Heroes 2, Diablo 4, Days Gone and Atomic Heart. All games showed just few frames more with RTX 3070, with Diablo 4 actually doing few FPS WORSE!!! Atomic Heart was the only exception which had the lows of around 192-200+ on RTX 3070 vs lows of around 165 on the RX 7600.

All tests were done with "High" preset, @ 1440p. the CPU used was Ryzen 5 7600

I then did a 3DMark demo test for "Steel Nomad" which showed a descent 37.38% lead for the RTX 3070. Thats much more in line with what most comparison sites show for these cards.

Any idea what's going on here? Is it the specific games I tested? Is it the "OEM" part? My 3070 has been cleaned before testing and is still fairly "new" as I haven't used it much.

So are you only using one 16GB stick of RAM? That will bottleneck the hell out of a modern gpu.

 

[Mopetar]

TPU has the 3070 as 35% faster at 1440p so you're probably bottlenecked somewhere.