Is an overclocked 2500+ really the same as a 3200+?

[JJN]

I see alot of people have oc'd their 2500 bartons to 3200 speeds. Is the speed the only difference between the two chips? Does an oc'd 2500 that is exactly at 3200 speeds, perform exactly as a 3200? Or is there other differences that many of us don't know of?

 

[BlueWeasel]

The default for a 2500+ is 11.0 multiplier @ 166 FSB. Therefore, 11x166 = 1830mhz

The default for a 3200+ is also a 11.0 multiplier @ 200 FSB. So 11x200 = 2200mhz.

The newer 2500+ Bartons are multiplier locked, so the only way you can OC is by raising the FSB. Alot have been able to go to 200 FSB or higher, so if you can get to 200 FSB with your 2500+, then you have the equivalent of the 3200+.

 

[Duvie]

They should be the exact same in performance unless the oc is flaky and you get diminishing scores because of it....

 

[Corporate Thug]

yeah, its the same

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: shady06
yeah, its the same

and why is your 1900 @ 1700?

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: shady06
yeah, its the same

and why is your 1900 @ 1700?

i dont have a 1900

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: shady06
yeah, its the same

and why is your 1900 @ 1700?

i dont have a 1900

 

[pspada]

No, it's not the same - While the performance is equivalent, you save quite a few bucks running the 2500+ at 3200+ speeds. Or as in my case, running several 2600+es at 3300+ speeds.

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: pspada
No, it's not the same - While the performance is equivalent, you save quite a few bucks running the 2500+ at 3200+ speeds. Or as in my case, running several 2600+es at 3300+ speeds.

and why isn't it the same?

if they have the same L2 cache .. same fsb x multiplier .. why wouldn't it be the same?

 

[SilentAssassin]

He means they are different by price only.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Sid59

Originally posted by: pspada
No, it's not the same - While the performance is equivalent, you save quite a few bucks running the 2500+ at 3200+ speeds. Or as in my case, running several 2600+es at 3300+ speeds.

and why isn't it the same?

if they have the same L2 cache .. same fsb x multiplier .. why wouldn't it be the same?

Sid, you aren't slipping on us, are you?

edit: I forgot to include my which seems to be this thread's default emotion!

 

[suklee]

Originally posted by: Sid59

Originally posted by: pspada
No, it's not the same - While the performance is equivalent, you save quite a few bucks running the 2500+ at 3200+ speeds. Or as in my case, running several 2600+es at 3300+ speeds.

and why isn't it the same?

if they have the same L2 cache .. same fsb x multiplier .. why wouldn't it be the same?

sarcasm?



just had to get my share of the emoticon in here

 

[suklee]

DP

 

[Sid59]

:beer::beer:

 

[Techie333]

Are AthlonXP 3000+ Bartons multiplier locked?

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: Techie333
Are AthlonXP 3000+ Bartons multiplier locked?

i believe all AMD chips coming out (minues the FX series) are locked.

 

[0roo0roo]

same, minus garrantee of stability.

i just call my non barton a 3200+, there are no 2.4ghz tbred... bah.

 

[wampa]

 

[beserker16]

just a question, i'm running mine @ 13*170(using crappy ddr2700)=2.2gigs, why does windows detect it as a 2800?

 

[UptheMiddle]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
The default for a 2500+ is 11.0 multiplier @ 166 FSB. Therefore, 11x166 = 1830mhz

The default for a 3200+ is also a 11.0 multiplier @ 200 FSB. So 11x200 = 2200mhz.

The newer 2500+ Bartons are multiplier locked, so the only way you can OC is by raising the FSB. Alot have been able to go to 200 FSB or higher, so if you can get to 200 FSB with your 2500+, then you have the equivalent of the 3200+.

Its the getting it there (200 FSB) that may be a little tricky. Seems like everybody save for the unlucky few, are able to, though!
:brokenheart::frown:

almost forgot.......

btw, is anybody else having problems with using the preview feature prior to replying to the topic?