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Is a Wireless subnetwork on a network possible?

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Waterskier1

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I have searched the forum, and can't find my specific situation. I have 3 static IP addresses from my DSL ISP. I have a Cisco 675 modem (router - set in bridging mode, and DHCP off for my ISP) connected directly to a 16-port autosensing hub. It's got no switching or routing capabilities built in. I have been using this for a few years, without problems, by using NetBEUI for file sharing between computers, and making sure that no two computers with the same IP address were turned on at the same time. This worked fine for me, since the computers are for convenience, and rarely does more than two need to be connected to the internet at the same time. Now I got a Speedstream 2624 Wireless DSL/Cable router. I connected the WAN port to one of the Hub ports, and assigned it one of the static IP addresses. I can get internet access (thru one of the hardwired ports - haven't tried wireless yet), but I can't see my other computers/print servers on the other side of the Router. Nor can equipment on the other side of the router see anything behind the 2624. I know that NetBEUI isn't routable, so I need to use another protocol. Unfortunately, I'd like to use the DHCP server (although it need not be dynamic - I could use static IP) but since it uses 192.168.254.254 series IP addresses, and my ISP uses 198.95.xxx.xxx external addresses, I think this is my cause for problem. Is there a way I can use this Router as a "subnet" to my existing network? Currently, all or on the same Workgroup, and I don't use a Domain. Also, since the hub is only a hub, there is no IP address or gateway assigned to it.

Thanks, and let me know if you need more specifics.
 
You can connect the router directly to the 675.
You can route one of your internal IP's to one of the externals, for webserving, etc. , and allow dhcp from the router for the rest. All your other protocols will work.
The basic design of the router is to seperate the WAN and the LAN sides for security's sake, so getting filesharing and things like that to work across the WAN port is very difficult, and counter to the firmware in these simple, yet capable boxes.
 
Yes, I could (if location wasn't a problem) connect the router directily to my 675, but I don't think I could route my Static IPs through the router, can I? I would also put those boxes behind the router, with will inhibit access from the internet (internet printing to the print server and Remote Desktop Sharing, to name a couple). I want to keep the Static IPs directily connected to their respective computers, and not thru NAT. I'm guessing an upgrade to of the hub to a router may help, but not sure. I'm also open to other protocols, but can't figure any out that will allow me to see the original network from behind the router, and vice versa. All can access the net now - just not eachother.
 
Yes, you can route the static IP's. You might have to do some fancy footwork, so to speak, to get everything routed like you want, but I'd give it a try.
 
Ok, after more studying, it looks like this router MUST be the first router/hub connected to the DSL Modem. If there are any additional routers, hubs, they must be behind this SpeedStream router. Given that, and given that I can't afford, and would never use, several blocks of external static IPs, can I route static IPs from the internet, through this SpeedStream, directly to a specific machine. There will need to be two Static IPs routed to one each designated computer, and the third static IP would go to the router. Then the router would DHCP other IPs for the other computers. Will this work? Will a connection from the internet be routed transparently to the correct computer, without NAT or other problems? Let's, for this sake, assume each of the two static IPs are routed to servers, for HTTP, FTP, or whatever, but they each have to go to their respective machine. Will I be able to see all machines (those with static external IPs and those with internal dynamic/static IPs) on the LAN side of the router? I got this thinking I could use it to administer my network thru wi-fi at times, and also get a few extra, occasional use IPs, and a print server. Maybe I would have been better off just getting a single or maybe two access points instead? My goal was to fully integrate the wi-fi with my existing network, and internet access was secondary to communication with the existing boxes on the LAN.
 
SMC sells for about $60 (not a lot of money considering the importance of this concoction for your enterprise) an Entry Level Router that can do what you want. It can hold up to 10 computers in the DMZ with Independent IPs.

Get it, and use the SpeedStream as an AP for the wireless connection trough regular ports (leave the WAN open).

SMC7004FW ? Supports 10 WAN IP addresses
 
Ok, I've looked into the suggested additional router with 10 DMZs, but I am not sure if the Static IPs I would route to computers in those DMZs would still be seen in Network Neighborhood, and what protocol, if any, I'd be able to use to "see" them from other computers served by the DHCP host in the router, which would be on totally different, internal IPs. Am I making this more difficult than necessary? That solution would require considerably more wiring than I currently have, but if it would work, I'd consider it. BTW, where did you see the SMC7004FW for that price? Pricewatch.com and Pricegrabber.com both show the best price over $100 for that model. Thanks for your help, and I'm open to other suggestions.
 
My above post is from 10 days ago. I do not remember where I saw the Router, may be there was sale or rebate at the time.

I never put more then one on the DMZ, but this looks good.

SMC Barricade? 4-Port Cable/DSL Broadband Router.

Log to the following link and scroll to page 58 of the document.

SMC Barricade? 4-Port Cable/DSL Broadband Router PDF Manual.

If the link does not work go directly to smc.com and try to look for the manual of 7004VBR.

Page 58 shows that the DMZ is a combination of both Local, and external IP.


Hey it Just $34.95. If you can not risk it, I doubt it worth you while to begin with.
 
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