Is a new PC with i7-3930K a bad idea?

[fastamdman]

"Now, here’s where things get murkier. Add up all of the benchmark results, and the stock $600 Core i7-3930K only gives you a 15% average advantage over the stock Core i7-2600K."

Edit: Also the op mention games. Again quote taken from tomshardware

"If you’re gaming with one (or even two) high-end graphics cards in your system, doing a lot of desktop productivity work, or simply on a more constrained budget, the -2600K is a better bet. Shoot, at that point, I’d still say step it on down to a -2500K."

 

[mnewsham]

Do you have reading comprehension? I mean honestly, the OP is going to be doing rendering why you would use Itunes converting benchmark as a relevant piece of data?

 

[mfenn]

The OP states, "but the main reason for upgrading is the fact that I do a lot of 3D work and rendering (Maya, Photoshop, etc.)" So why the hell would you add up a bunch of irrelevant benchmarks? No shit Sandy Bridge-E is worthless for gaming, that's not what we're talking about here.

 

[mnewsham]

The OP states, "but the main reason for upgrading is the fact that I do a lot of 3D work and rendering (Maya, Photoshop, etc.)" So why the hell would you add up a bunch of irrelevant benchmarks? No shit Sandy Bridge-E is worthless for gaming, that's not what we're talking about here.

Not to mention Sandy Bridge-E is NOT priced for the gaming market it is priced for the professional market.

 

[fastamdman]

Hmm, didn't know I couldn't give my ^%$#@!& opinion on a public forum, my bad.

I am just tossing out information kiddos, don't get mad at facts.

 

[mfenn]

Hmm, didn't know I couldn't give my ^%$#@!& opinion on a public forum, my bad.

I am just tossing out information kiddos, don't get mad at facts.

It's fine to give your opinion, but that doesn't make it immune to (richly deserved) criticism. If you don't want people to call you out on it, keep it to yourself.

 

[fastamdman]

Oh trust me I don't mind being called out on things, I enjoy it. No matter how you spin it, to ME a 3930k system is way over priced for myself, for the op and for a lot of people.

I am sure 2 2600k systems would benefit his "business" more then 1 3930k, but maybe I am wrong.

Where is that 50% difference at mfenn?

 

[mnewsham]

Hmm, didn't know I couldn't give my ^%$#@!& opinion on a public forum, my bad.

I am just tossing out information kiddos, don't get mad at facts.

Everyone's opinion is allowed to be expressed, however expect to be called out on stuff you say, especially if you keep spouting randomness about "I5-2500k + Z68!!!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneoneoneoneoneone1111!!!!!!!212131111~~!!!!"

You just sound like an idiot, there are different needs for different builds. You don't seem to take into account that the OP needs a computer NOT for gaming but for 3D work. Which is very CPU intensive. And if the OP can make money off of this SandyBridge-E might be just what he needs.

 

[mnewsham]

Oh trust me I don't mind being called out on things, I enjoy it. No matter how you spin it, to ME a 3930k system is way over priced for myself, for the op and for a lot of people.

I am sure 2 2600k systems would benefit his "business" more then 1 3930k, but maybe I am wrong.

Where is that 50% difference at mfenn?

If you have one project that will take 19 computing hours on a 3930k or 26 hours on the 2600k. Now lets say you can't split up this work load onto multiple machines, and this is NEEDED before you can continue on with your current project. Your 2nd 2600k is now sitting there doing NOTHING for 26 hours.

It all depends on the OP's needs and how he plans on using the machine. As I said earlier unless you get more money for having that faster CPU it probably isnt worth... but IF you do make money from it, and you can fully utilize it then it is def worth it.

 

[fastamdman]

Whatever the op is doing could be handled by a highly overclocked 2600k, I guarantee it.

What "randomness" am I spouting off about the 2500k/2600k's with z68?!?!?

 

[mnewsham]

Whatever the op is doing could be handled by a highly overclocked 2600k, I guarantee it.

What "randomness" am I spouting off about the 2500k/2600k's with z68?!?!?

Check almost every other post you have posted.

 

[mfenn]

Oh trust me I don't mind being called out on things, I enjoy it.

You do realize that all I or anyone else has to do is scroll up to find you whining and cursing about people calling you out, right?

No matter how you spin it, to ME a 3930k system is way over priced for myself, for the op and for a lot of people.

I am sure 2 2600k systems would benefit his "business" more then 1 3930k, but maybe I am wrong.

Where is that 50% difference at mfenn?

Did you miss where I showed that it would be worth it for a business if it was even 10% faster? I also posted a benchmark showing that it is at least 30% faster. Please attempt to follow the thread of conversation.

 

[bradcollins]

You can't build two 2600k systems for the price of one 3930k system.

Actually this thread has reminded me of one of my customers who does rendering on an i7 860, when he gets back to work after christmas I will sell him an i7 3930k as the various Autodesk products he works with support all of the cores and the 3930k will be nearly twice as fast as his 860. A 2600k simply wouldn't be worth the upgrade!

 

[GoStumpy]

Fastamdman, I mean this in the nicest way possible, but... Sometimes your opinion may not be relevant to the thread you are posting in, and for the best of the thread, keep it to yourself... ()

 

[T0bias]

Part of me thinks that I should save the money, but looking at the fact that a i7-2600k is 100% faster than my current cpu, then I think another 40-50% increase on top of that is quite significant - unfortunately the price is too But since I'm buying an enterily new pc, and not just upgrading, the increase in cost doesn't seem as much as if I only upgraded the cpu and motherboard.. and a good i7-2600k system is still really expensive.. and yeah, as someone said I'm not going to be able to get a second i7-2600k systems for the money saved, as I mentioned the overall increase in system cost is around 30%


Even though I don't have a business I'll be rendering overnight quite often and it matters to me that my PC is able to finish before the morning so that I can continue working. And a quick estimate is that my next project for example would take around 6-10 hours to render on the 8 core machine, could be more though.

 

[mfenn]

Even though I don't have a business I'll be rendering overnight quite often and it matters to me that my PC is able to finish before the morning so that I can continue working. And a quick estimate is that my next project for example would take around 6-10 hours to render on the 8 core machine, could be more though.

Can you look up the exact model number of the CPUs that you have currently? If they are Nehalems or better, it is very likely that any new quad or hex core machine won't be able to beat what you have by a significant margin. Wouldn't want you to build a shiny new machine and then be disappointed.

 

[mnewsham]

Can you look up the exact model number of the CPUs that you have currently? If they are Nehalems or better, it is very likely that any new quad or hex core machine won't be able to beat what you have by a significant margin. Wouldn't want you to build a shiny new machine and then be disappointed.

stated in the OP:
Q9450 2.6GHz

 

[mfenn]

stated in the OP:
Q9450 2.6GHz

That's not the duallie quad that he's talking about in the post that I quoted though.

 

[mnewsham]

That's not the duallie quad that he's talking about in the post that I quoted though.

I read it as if he were mentioning the i7 (quad core with HT). Now that I re-read im not sure O__O hard to understand.

 

[mfenn]

I read it as if he were mentioning the i7 (quad core with HT). Now that I re-read im not sure O__O hard to understand.

Yeah, the post isn't super specific, so clarification from the OP would be nice.

 

[T0bias]

Sorry for the confusion.

The 8 core I referred to was a Z600 workstation (some dual quad setup) I worked on some weeks ago, but now my primary work PC will be my own which is a Q9450 at 2.6GHz (Penryn).

I just had a better idea of what the render time would be on that Z600

 

[mfenn]

Oh ok, so you don't have access to that Z600 any more? In that case, yeah a 2600K would be a huge upgrade from your Q9450.

 

[T0bias]

Yeah thats right, I don't have access to it anymore.

I must say I'm quite tempted to go for the i7-3930k as I feel a 40-50% increase in rendering performance feels quite significant, also considering that 2600k is "only" around 100% faster than my q9450, then the additional performance increase of the i7-3930k seems to be quite a lot - I'm just thinking that no matter what I decide for it's a pretty expensive system anyways

 

[biostud]

Whatever you decide, remember to overclock

 

[mfenn]

Whatever you decide, remember to overclock

Not if $$$ depends on it he shouldn't.