Is a Costa Rican 2.4C as good as Malay for O'clocking?

[computer]

Hi all, are any of you that are o'clocking your 2.4C (on a 865/875 mobo, or other) using a chip from Costa Rica? I just got my (retail) 2.4C in and to my dismay the SOB is Costa Rica (SL6WF), not Malay as I had hoped. If the CR chip will OC as good as the Malaysian, I'll keep it. Or should it return or sell it, and try again for one from Malaysia?

 

[yhelothar]

i thought back in the P4 1.6A days.. everyone wanted the coasta rica C1 steppings?
now coasta rica sucks?

 

[computer]

I don't know, that's why I'm asking. I do know that some time back all I heard about was Malay chips OC'ing so well, and better than CR chips. I don't know anything about steppings as far as Malay Vs. CR. I don't know what the stepping is of this CPU I have. I'll have to look it up. I just did a quick search for SL6WF and I see one place is saying that this is the ONLY spec code for 2.4C CPU's! One guy has his from CR running @3.2ghz. I also see that some are CR and some are Malay.

 

[computer]

Looks like an SL6WF is D1 stepping according to one site. I don't know if that means that all of the SL6WF's are though. ?

 

[computer]

Ok I just found this which sheds some light on it. Apparently they (800mhz FSB C's) are all D1. That site above got their CR SL6WF to 4ghz using dry ice!

 

[bacillus]

all of the 800 fsb cpus are D1 stepping.
IMO try it as o/clocking is a gamble & you could have a super o/clocker on your hands!

 

[Tom]

You would be better off asking Miss Cleo..:moon:

 

[computer]

...and what jail is she in??

 

[AndyHui]

Something from Wingznut and pm:

AnandTech FAQ: Does country of origin affect overclockability?

 

[computer]

Hmmm, notice that is from Intel themselves. Makes me wonder now if that is really true. They could be "buttering the bread" of one chip type so they won't run short on another chip type and create a supply/demand problem as per labeling. It just doesn't make sense to pay a fortune to ship packages and its contents overseas just to have them packaged up to be sold! Not only does that cost more than someone here doing it and causing potential logistical problems, but why in the hell would a country's name be STAMPED ON THE CHIP ITSELF if they are only "responsible for packaging" as Intel claims????????? If that were the case you'd see "Costa Rica" or "Malaysia" on the OUTER BOX label and not on the chip itself. No, I don't buy it. What do you guys think?

Thanks for the info, interesting.

 

[AndyHui]

I think that you are being unfair on John and Patrick. Both volunteer their time, expertise and knowledge on these forums for the benefit of all and do not have the intention of being "propaganda spreaders".

 

[computer]

All I'm doing is reacting to the link you suggested (which I thanked you for), and would like some clarification as to the valid points I brought up. No one is being "unfair" to anyone. Are you not curious as to the things I pointed out?

 

[degeester]

Check out the database at overclockers.com, here's the link

 

[computer]

Thanks, interesting as well. From the looks of that DB, the Malay chips are better OC'ers as far as the 2.4C goes. Out of the top 10, only 2 are Costa Rica. Now I wonder if that could be because the Malay stamped chips may be more prevalent?

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: computer
Hmmm, notice that is from Intel themselves. Makes me wonder now if that is really true. They could be "buttering the bread" of one chip type so they won't run short on another chip type and create a supply/demand problem as per labeling. It just doesn't make sense to pay a fortune to ship packages and its contents overseas just to have them packaged up to be sold! Not only does that cost more than someone here doing it and causing potential logistical problems, but why in the hell would a country's name be STAMPED ON THE CHIP ITSELF if they are only "responsible for packaging" as Intel claims????????? If that were the case you'd see "Costa Rica" or "Malaysia" on the OUTER BOX label and not on the chip itself. No, I don't buy it. What do you guys think?

Thanks for the info, interesting.

Your assumptions about the economics are wrong. For a multitude of reasons it can cost less to ship components to faraway locations for final assembly. I would guess that the process involved in making the chip itself is extremely complicated and expensive, so Intel does that closer to home, but final assembly is much less complicated so they built the plants to do that overseas to take advantage of government incentives, low labor costs, less regulation, etc. The cost savings probably far outweigh the cost of shipping, particularly since there has been a revolution in the air freight and container ship industry.

I would guess the reasons there are plants in Costa Rica and Malayasa, and other places, is because this maximises the amount of government incentives Intel can get and also creates redundant capability. Like if a tidal wave wiped out their plant in Costa Rica they would not have to stop production.

 

[computer]

Yes I was aware of cheap labor, but even with that considered it seems like it would still be much cheaper to package the CPU's here since they are already here, and in their plant. Possibly not. That still doens't explain though why the CPU's themselves are country stamped instead of the outer boxes, I'm still curious about that.

 

[Tom]

By packaging, they don't mean putting it in the box. They mean the process of final assembly of the silicon to a circuit board with some components and the interface(little wires) that are used to install the cpu in or on a motherboard.

I think.

 

[computer]

Ahh, that makes more sense if that's the case.

 

[MDE]

It can also help to track down defects from each assembly plant, as I'm sure they only have one in each country.

 

[Snufalufagus]

I own both, and both do 3.21GHz and stock voltage. Its a myth about one being better than the other.

 

[tenoc]

What the dead parrot said. Packaging with a wider conotation.


hmmm. A talking dead parrot - don't see many of those (nudge nudge, wink wink, say-no-more say-no-more).

 

[computer]

Tenoc you left out "grin-grin" & "know whutta mean".

 

[Wingznut]

Cool, Andy... I'm not sure how I missed it, but I never noticed you turned it into a FAQ.

computer... First off, let me clarify that what is posted here is not "Intel says..." I post of my own opinion, and am in no way speaking for Intel, Corp.

All that being said, I'm not sure what I can do to ease your skepticism. Feel free to search through all of my (and pm's) posts over the years, and you'll see that we've never tried to "sell" Intel, or anything of the sort.

Check out Intel in your community section. If you go through the different plants, you'll see that the CR, Malay, and Philli factories are "Assembly and Test", and not "Fabrication" facilities.

I personally work at Ronler Acres, fabricating Northwoods. As you'll see in the site linked above, RA is in Oregon, not CR or Malay.

Anyway, if you have any questions, feel free to post them... PM them... ICQ/AIM/MSN... And we can chat until my keyboard breaks.

 

[merlion]

Well I just received my 2.4C today and it is a Costa Rica piece, so I'm going to find out how high of an OC I get on Thursday when my IS7-E gets here from the Egg.

This CPU is a $137.85 Staples special after a PM with Googlegear and a $30 off $150 coupon.