is a 2700+ a Barton?

[JoeCDaMan]

I'm lookin for a new processor, I'm having probs overclocking the 2000+ that I have right now.... I heard that chips w/ the palamino core are tough to overclock... anyway I want to buy a 2700 + but I want to make sure that it is a Barton because apparently those are easier to tweak. Also is there a difference between an OEM chip and a retail? cause from reading some of the other posts some people perfer OEM My sys rig at the bottom is the pc I want to upgrade. I'm planning to place the order tonight so any help would be appreciated. Thanks

 

[Corporate Thug]

the 2700+ is not a barton, it is a throughbred

 

[JoeCDaMan]

are T-bred's easy to overclock as well? and I am still curious about the difference between OEM and retail. Thanks

 

[ethebubbeth]

OEM chips generally come with an extremely short warranty (often in the area of fifteen days or so) and do not come with a heatsink, it must be purchased separately. Often the chip will fail during those fifteen days though if it is a manufacturing defect, and a lot of people prefer to use an aftermarket cooling solution anyway. It really depends on your personal preference.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: JoeCDaMan
are T-bred's easy to overclock as well? and I am still curious about the difference between OEM and retail. Thanks

t-bred OC better than bartons

get a 1700+ from excaliber and oc the $hit out of it

 

[JoeCDaMan]

Thanks for the help, I just placed my order for a 2700+

isn't a 1700+ a palomino core as well? what makes that so special that you can overclock it more than like a 2000+ ? cause that's what I have now but I can't do jack with it, whatever setting I set it to in bios with my asus a7n8x dlx the board just rejects it completely.

 

[Corporate Thug]

the 1700+ can be found with a throughbred B core which OC like a beast. the ones over at excaliber typically hit 2.3Ghz

 

[JoeCDaMan]

but all 2700+ are T-breds? cause I just placed the order so this concerns me greatly... I don't want to be stuck w/ another palomino... that's why I asked

 

[pspada]

I bought a 2700+ from newegg a month or so ago, and it was a t-bred. I doubt that there are any palominos' left in the channel, unless you buy from someplace that has very little turnover in stock.

Incidentally, the 2700+ ran just great at 11.5x200fsb on my 8RDA+, just as the current 3000+ (same clock speed, but with the bigger Barton cache) does.

 

[jhbball]

Originally posted by: JoeCDaMan
but all 2700+ are T-breds? cause I just placed the order so this concerns me greatly... I don't want to be stuck w/ another palomino... that's why I asked

yes, i believe the last of the palamino chips was the 2100+.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: jhbball

Originally posted by: JoeCDaMan
but all 2700+ are T-breds? cause I just placed the order so this concerns me greatly... I don't want to be stuck w/ another palomino... that's why I asked

yes, i believe the last of the palamino chips was the 2100+.

yup, all are t-breds

 

[TheCorm]

Many people here would say that a 2500+ Barton chip overclocks better than a 2700+ Thoroughbred chip and I would agree.

The 1700+ is an excellent overclocker though.

Jamie

 

[pspada]

Nope ^. I was able to oc the 2700+ quite a bit more than the 2500+ (at stock voltage) I had previously, with all else being identical.

 

[JoeCDaMan]

phew that comes as a big relief... thanks much

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The 2700+ has a 340mhz advantage right off so it's a safer bet since some do get 2500+'s that won't even do 2.2ghz on 1.85v or less.

 

[pspada]

Oh, ^ sure that had something to do with it. But whereas the 2700+ would run at 11.5x200 easily at default voltage, the best I could do with the 2500+ was 10x200 at default voltage.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: pspada
Oh, ^ sure that had something to do with it. But whereas the 2700+ would run at 11.5x200 easily at default voltage, the best I could do with the 2500+ was 10x200 at default voltage.

Yep, they're all different brudda My Barton 2500+ does 11.5x200@1.632 actual so it's just the luck of the draw.