Is 51 idle too hot for a 3400+?

[BillyBobJoel71]

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[Gerbil333]

I don't think it should run that hot. My 3200+ idles around 35C in room temp. Have you reseated the hsf? What's your load temp?

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

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[Bateluer]

51^C idle is pretty warm for any machine. My 3.4 P4 Prescott idles at around 43^C and full loads at about 50ish, and the prescotts are about the hottest running single core chips you can get.

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

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[Vegitto]

Dude, you might want to put a cooler on that. I'll give it 2 weeks if you keep it running this way.

 

[alexXx]

dont listen to vegitto. that person does not know anything. Yes 51 is a little hot, but all you need to do is open up the computer, get rid of the dust between the fins in the heatsink and move wires around(mainly ide wired) and give the processor a nice open area in which to breath.
51C is hot, but it will run like that for 10more years...

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: alexXx
dont listen to vegitto. that person does not know anything. Yes 51 is a little hot, but all you need to do is open up the computer, get rid of the dust between the fins in the heatsink and move wires around(mainly ide wired) and give the processor a nice open area in which to breath.
51C is hot, but it will run like that for 10more years...

I don't know anything? Hmm, might have to go back to kindergarten for that . I know I was exagerrating (spelled wrong, I know, please correct me), and he knew that, too. But 51C for an idle processor is NOT okay.

 

[alexXx]

yes it is. Do you know what temperature the chip is rated up to? i bet it is over 80C. If it doesnt crash, then it proves you wrong.

 

[Vegitto]

That temperature rating means that the chip could function at 80C, but not constantly, mind you. And, hey, if I'm wrong, I'm willing to accept that, and apologize for it. Okay?

 

[joejccva]

alexXx if a cpu is idling at 51C, something is wrong. Vegitto is correct, this is NOT ok because at 100% load the temp would definately get above 60C and you don't want that. You ALWAYS want to keep temps at full load under 60C no matter what.

Vegitto WAS exaggerating when he said 2 weeks, but he's definately correct about how 51C for an IDLE temp is not ok. My CPU idles at 31C and with my air conditioning on in my room it idles at 29C, and my CPU is overclocked from 2.0ghz to 2.75ghz. I have a great deal of air cooling in my case not to mention my XP-90C copper heatpipe w/ a 92mm panaflo fan mounted ontop.

At 100% load my cpu temp never goes above 43C. And this guy's cpu is IDLING at 51? Something is definately wrong.

 

[Furen]

I'm guessing it's a socket 754 cpu, which does run significantly hotter than a 90 nano althon 64. One thing you might want to try is to give us the load temperature. Also try touching the heatsink while the cpu is running - if it's cool to the touch then that can mean one of two things: either the thermal monitor is wrong (which happens), or the cpu doesnt have good thermal contact with the heatsink.

Are you running a stock heatsink? What is your ambient temperature? I've seen winchester cores run at 55C in a hot environment, and they run just fine. Another thing you might wanna tinker with (if your load temp is not TOO high) is cool and quiet.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: Furen
I'm guessing it's a socket 754 cpu, which does run significantly hotter than a 90 nano althon 64. One thing you might want to try is to give us the load temperature. Also try touching the heatsink while the cpu is running - if it's cool to the touch then that can mean one of two things: either the thermal monitor is wrong (which happens), or the cpu doesnt have good thermal contact with the heatsink.

Are you running a stock heatsink? What is your ambient temperature? I've seen winchester cores run at 55C in a hot environment, and they run just fine. Another thing you might wanna tinker with (if your load temp is not TOO high) is cool and quiet.

Such as? The Sun?

 

[JBird7986]

My 130nm 939 idles at 46...it only loads at 51C though. What is your CPU running under load? Use Lavalys Everest to find out.

 

[Furen]

Remember that not everyone has 25C ambient temperatures and not everyone uses an ACed room.

I'll tell you the specifics just so you dont think I'm pulling numbers out of my ass:

Winchester 3000+ @ 2.160 and default voltage
MSI K8T FIR motherboard.
512MB of generic ram
9800pro video card (dunno what brand)
some western digital 120GB hardrive
Floppy and optical drive.

This was in a little town called Calexico, California in a non-airconditioned room. Just for reference their temperature forecast for today was 112F high for the day, 77F low during the night.

 

[Vegitto]

Oh, that is a warm enviroment.

 

[cubeless]

i built a rig with a 3400/754/retail and it sits mid 40's idle and mid/high 50's loaded... been running for a couple months no probs... i redid the hsf with as5 'cuz i thought it seemed too hot, but no difference... looking at the core it looks (maybe just a optical delusion) that the core isn't real flat... i may pull it apart and lap the core a bit...

i think that the mobo (vnf-3) might be reading a bit high, the hsf gets warm but not that hot (althought that may be due to bad core/hsf interface) so i'm not sure... hsf feels about as hot as my oc'd 939/3000's...

but if it's a stock retail pc, and it's not full of dirt, then it's probably expected to run a bit warm to be cheap and quiet... if it dies it's got a warranty...

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Oh, that is a warm enviroment.

Meh, its hotter in Phoenix right now. Night time temp here is still over 100.

Thank god for the AC.

 

[MDme]

51C at idle is pretty warm for a cpu, esp since it is an a64 even if 130nm. try to bring it inside an airconditioned room to see if it is indeed the ambient temps causing your problem. my system can run with the fan off!!! and still it will not idle at 51C.

 

[Furen]

is it 51C idle? or 51C in the bios?

Bios temperature should be closer to load temp than to idle

 

[Dman877]

If it's an oem box, why bother? If it fails, compaq/hp can replace it. 51C is fine for the A64, I ran one at about 50C idle/60C load for over a year without problems. I think the temp was mis-reported but it was still pretty warm. Is C/Q working on that machine? If not, it would lower your temps by 10C or so.

 

[dsj]

my athlon xp 3000+ is around 80 degrees on the desktop.

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

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