Is 2016 The Peak of the PC Master Race?

[werepossum]

One comes with motion tracked controllers and does proper room scale, the other only ships with a gamepad and room scale remains to be seen as well as their motion controller implementation.

No regrets about my Vive (mindblowing), and the wife is talking about us ordering another. As for the cost, would you believe Oculus claims they make no money selling it?

I understand the cost differential, I'm just shocked at the cost. Seems very high for consumer goods. Bleeding edge I suppose.

Thomas Edison did something like this. If it's good enough for Thomas Edison it's good enough for me.

Worth pointing out that Thomas Edison is dead. Now, I'm not saying that is why he's dead, necessarily. I'm just sayin'.

 

[sweenish]

Seems very high for consumer goods.

What?

 

[Stringjam]

Thomas Edison did something like this. If it's good enough for Thomas Edison it's good enough for me.

F*ck Thomas Edison. Nikola Tesla FTW.

 

[moonbogg]

IMO, anyone who claims to be a true gamer should have multiple platforms (PC, console, etc) to game on so they can experience the best of all worlds. Computers have been my hobby for over 35 years but I have a PS4 and still have my PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii to play games I can't get on the PC (sports, Uncharted, GoW, etc). I still have a bunch of older platforms (various Commodore, Amiga, and even an Atari 2600) I can also call on when interested.

This is war, damn it. You can't be a soldier and have supper with the enemy just because they have better care packages than you on occasion. This is a disgrace, soldier. Your punishment WILL BE:

50 multiplayer rounds of...of, um...(thinking of PC exclusives)...

Just don't say those things again.

No wait, I got it. Your punishment WILL BE 50 multiplayer rounds of:

Wreckfest (Next Car Game)
Unreal Tournament
and
Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak

You will then be cleansed.

 

[Sabrewings]

I understand the cost differential, I'm just shocked at the cost. Seems very high for consumer goods. Bleeding edge I suppose.

And this is #PCMR we're talking about here. Gotta pay to play.

F*ck Thomas Edison. Nikola Tesla FTW.

This. Fuck Edison. He was a dick.

 

[escrow4]

-> Fat bloated 50GB+ game sizes

-> Tiny 5hr single player campaigns

-> What campaign there is is a tired mish mash of fetch this, shoot this, corridor that

-> AAA titles that don't work for at least 6 months after release and another 50GB of patches

-> Mandatory DLC that should have been there in the first place

-> Quad core and fat GPU requirements yet they are still console ports originally running on tablet CPUs that don't justify the requirements

-> Even more stores to sign up to

Nothing to get excited above. "Next" gen is mostly just bloat.

 

[KMFJD]

-> Fat bloated 50GB+ game sizes

-> Tiny 5hr single player campaigns

-> What campaign there is is a tired mish mash of fetch this, shoot this, corridor that

-> AAA titles that don't work for at least 6 months after release and another 50GB of patches

-> Mandatory DLC that should have been there in the first place

-> Quad core and fat GPU requirements yet they are still console ports originally running on tablet CPUs that don't justify the requirements

-> Even more stores to sign up to

Nothing to get excited above. "Next" gen is mostly just bloat.

you forgot the paid beta/perpetual development hell that some games are in

 

[myocardia]

$600 versus $800? Holy crap!

Tell me about it, but you forgot about the extra $5-600 for more GPU power, assuming you're wanting to game with them.

 

[StinkyPinky]

How people react once they go up the social ladder and ditch the peasant-sole for the Master Race.

 

[Midwayman]

-> Fat bloated 50GB+ game sizes


-> Quad core and fat GPU requirements yet they are still console ports originally running on tablet CPUs that don't justify the requirements



Nothing to get excited above. "Next" gen is mostly just bloat.

Well you have to remember the console versions are basically running the "low" preset for the PC version at less than 1080p and less than 60fps. Sometimes barely 30fps. You can accomplish that with a really shitty PC. Turning on all the graphics candy isn't a high ROI, but going to higher resolution and especially higher frame rate is. I mean I'm on a CPU that's over 5 years old now and its still running PC titles really well.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Well you have to remember the console versions are basically running the "low" preset for the PC version at less than 1080p and less than 60fps. Sometimes barely 30fps. You can accomplish that with a really shitty PC. Turning on all the graphics candy isn't a high ROI, but going to higher resolution and especially higher frame rate is. I mean I'm on a CPU that's over 5 years old now and its still running PC titles really well.

Some graphics settings are a huge difference. Mostly things like draw distance and object density if available. The effects like depth of field and ambient occlusion might make something look more cinematic but they don't directly contribute to the overall quality IMO.

 

[Midwayman]

Some graphics settings are a huge difference. Mostly things like draw distance and object density if available. The effects like depth of field and ambient occlusion might make something look more cinematic but they don't directly contribute to the overall quality IMO.

Sure, but there is a ton of stuff that even looking at a A/B comparison between high and ultra I can barely tell the difference and it halves your frame rate. I'd rather have more draw distance as you said, or physics for a more reactive environment than better shadows.

 

[shortylickens]

2002 was probably the peak.

 

[KentState]

I hope that this year isn't the peak. First year since 1992 that I haven't purchased a single PC game or hardware.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I hope that this year isn't the peak. First year since 1992 that I haven't purchased a single PC game or hardware.

It's only April though...but I know.

I do hope the new Witcher 3 DLC is good. That's the only reason I keep that game installed after 3 play throughs.

 

[escrow4]

2002 was probably the peak.

The PS2 was the peak. Now its all greed and scraping the bottom of the barrel.

 

[KentState]

It's only April though...but I know.

I do hope the new Witcher 3 DLC is good. That's the only reason I keep that game installed after 3 play throughs.

True, it is early. The major games on my radar for the year are console exclusives (Uncharted, FF and GoW). I'm struggling to think of anything coming out that I would get on the PC.

 

[poofyhairguy]

The PS2 was the peak. Now its all greed and scraping the bottom of the barrel.

The PS2 era in PC terms was the WOW era.

 

[TheUnk]

I hate to keep saying this, but I can't get past it. I think it will fade out pretty fast simply because people can't be bothered to strap that damn thing over their face every time they want to play a game. Its going to be a pain in the ass no matter how amazing it might be.

Once you get the initial adjustments made, putting on/off the Rift is about as easy as a hat.

 

[ritditditdidoo]

You are probably right, it is a good time for PC's and the indie game revolution is really helping a lot too. As is the love for mods that is spreading, and I love Steam sales too. Although I have always been a PC player by choice, I've played one for 30 years. There are a lot of consoles I could have had in that time but I chose not to. For me there were a few bumpy patches. The SNES was one of them because that had some games I really wanted to play and I couldn't, although I ended up borrowing a snes to get my fill for a week and eventually I could play some of those games on an emulator on my PC anyway.

Since then though there are no games I wished I could play, especially since the xbox/playstation era, I just don't see any of those games I would want to play, and yet so many PC games at that time which were exactly my cup of tea. (Tiberium Sun etc). The only other time was several years ago when stuff like Red Dead Redemption was getting hyped and it wasn't on PC, and then GTA4 released with no mention of whether there would even BE a pc version. Also my graphics card, cpu and ram were all ageing, and a cheap console had finally become a lot more powerful than my PC. I think Alan Wake was hyped to be an uber PC game game too and then ended up going to consoles first. There were a lot of articles about how the PC was going to die at this point too, and the rise of tablets were taking a huge chunk out of the PC sales business. It had me worried. But still, I preferred my PC because I am an MMO fanatic and they are mostly unique to PC's and they trump everything, also I play occasional shooters and for me it is mouse and keyboard or nothing. Also I like RTS, which again is all about PC, and certain RPG's (Baldurs Gate etc), and then there are a lot of old games I like to play which are PC only too (and things like Magic the Gathering online). And then a lot of those console only games, once the hype died down I saw a lot of people talking about how they weren't all that special anyway. And after all that, Alan Wake got dumbed down into some generic survival zombie horror game when originally I thought it was going to be an awesome Steven King adventure game or something.

Long story short, I've always been happiest with my PC. And then I got into Arma2 and Arma3 and I play that game pretty much constantly in a state of awe.