is 180W enough power

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: ribbon13
The XClio won't fit a mATX case YOyo.

oops, I thought that looked like a full sized ATX board (the picture) and he was just going to take the powersupply out of a micro atx case and stick it in an ATX motherboard.

Yeah, you're right on the brand... since pretty low wattage PSUs in SFF cases are pretty awesome.
 

ipitythefool

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i was going to try and use an existing m-atx case including the power supply as i'm trying to build the cheapest s939/pci-e system i can.

What would the effect of a low power PSU be, Would it damage the motherboard?
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: ribbon13
That's the MSI RS480. Very nice board.

After you mentioned that it was a m-atx board I went back and looked it up.

I know it's in your gf's computer, hawt!

Any info on that powersupply ipitythefool?
 

ribbon13

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Rarely would it damage the board, but it might not POST or boot, or it will crash or be unstable
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: ipitythefool
Originally posted by: ribbon13
What case?

Generic? That's bad

Its a no make case as well.

Why is generic bad?

If it was a really high quality company making a quality powersupply that had good efficiency and decent rails, the powersupply might have been enough.

If it's generic you're taking a gamble as to whether or not it's going to work.

Worst case = you use it for a while and then it ends up dying a violent death and taking the rest of your system with it.

 

wisdomtooth

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ipitythefool:

How about looking at a MicroATX case that lets you put a quality full-ATX PSU in there?

The same vendor as the one you linked to earlier has the Coolermaster ATC-610 HTPC case available. That is a microATX case which will take a full ATX PSU.

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/kl.asp?bn=10553

The Silverstone LC04 on that same page is also a very good choice even though it comes with its own non-standard PSU. Ultracompact (12" x 15" x 5"), quality pretty good, reviewed by Silent PC Review.. With that case you will only have the AGP and one PCI slot available though because it's so small.

HTH.
 

ribbon13

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I suggest a Seasonic PSU if you go with wisdomtooth's first suggestion. I can also safely say he'd probably agree.
 

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Inwin's V-series microATX cases also can take full-sized ATX PSUs and are both easy to find and pretty affordable. The PowerMan PSUs they come with are said to be OEM Sparkle Power, which is an OK brand, so there is another idea if they have one you like the looks of.
 

wisdomtooth

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What are some of the bigger computer vendors in the UK though? That particular shop ipitythefool is looking at doesn't have too big a selection unfortunately.

Do the vendors here in the U.S. like Newegg even ship to Great Britain..?

BTW.. A friend of mine just finished putting together a system with the near-identical ATC-620 case and Seasonic Super Tornado. His system works very quietly while staying cool. Photos here. Thread on his building experience Here.
 
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If you're looking at a move to A64+PCIe, it's probably time to scrape up a few more bucks and shift cases as well.

Go with the mATX + Fullsize PSU if you want tiny. Otherwise, you could get a minitower ATX (only two or three 5.25" bays instead of four) and save space that way. Shuttles are probably outside your comfortable price bracket, as a guess.

- M4H