Is 18% gratuity the new 15%?

[Imp]

I'm at 15% unless waitress is hot or whomever really made me feel "special".

The 'party' I was with tipped 15% despite me finding a ball of hair in an $80 platter dish. Not the waiter's fault, but I was still pretty pissed.

 

[Ackmed]

You're a smuck if you tip based on a percentage. Base the tip on how well the server did. The carry a plate to your table, it doesnt matter if its a $12 burger, or a $25 steak. Why does it make sense to double the tip based on that? Its still a plate. Where they polite, keep your drinks full, timely with the check, etc. Thats what I base tips on, not how much I spend.

 

[alkemyst]

25% mandatory tip rate = I won't go out to eat at your restaurants.

Well that's sort of the point...too many eat to much for their wallets so fuck the restaurant on the tips.

The management doesn't want to deal with pissed off staff anymore than a waiter wants to get stiffed.

The chinese place I delivered for in high school did it right. You don't tip the driver they called you back to let you know you'd not get delivery anymore.

They did it to the police stockade that was a REALLY good customer as far as orders...once they fucked our drivers they actually told the ones they knew were cops they couldn't eat in the restaurant.

It was quickly rectified. We were only paid $3 an hour and $0.25 per delivery for a 'close' order and $0.50 for a 'far' one. I think the circle was 5 miles I don't remember, the far orders would take a good 15 mins to get to at least. We were the only delivery that far out as well.

 

[alkemyst]

why should the looks of the waitress matter? unless its hooters i don't get it.

He doesn't get that you don't have to tip your mother even if you are living in the basement and she'd bringing down Hot Pockets.

 

[alkemyst]

You're a smuck if you tip based on a percentage. Base the tip on how well the server did. The carry a plate to your table, it doesnt matter if its a $12 burger, or a $25 steak. Why does it make sense to double the tip based on that? Its still a plate. Where they polite, keep your drinks full, timely with the check, etc. Thats what I base tips on, not how much I spend.

You have to be trolling with this or clearly really don't eat many $25 steaks (which is a bit on the low end really).

Tips are based on food cost because with higher food prices you go from 1 waiter serving 20 tables and the person at the next being only 4" from your chair to 1 waiter serving like 4-5 tables or even 4-5 waiters at 4-5 tables plus the next table being several feet away.

They serve less people in a night, but it's a better experience for the diner.

 

[TallBill]

You have to be trolling with this or clearly really don't eat many $25 steaks (which is a bit on the low end really).

Tips are based on food cost because with higher food prices you go from 1 waiter serving 20 tables and the person at the next being only 4" from your chair to 1 waiter serving like 4-5 tables or even 4-5 waiters at 4-5 tables plus the next table being several feet away.

They serve less people in a night, but it's a better experience for the diner.

Alky, you've actually been dead on so far in this thread. ++

 

[Nebor]

why should the looks of the waitress matter? unless its hooters i don't get it.

Because if you enjoy looking at her, and want her to be there again, and wait on your table again next time, you need to compensate her sufficiently to ensure that happens.

 

[alkemyst]

Because if you enjoy looking at her, and want her to be there again, and wait on your table again next time, you need to compensate her sufficiently to ensure that happens.

You only have to ask for her section, she ain't going to be coming to you,

 

[Nebor]

You only have to ask for her section, she ain't going to be coming to you,

I'm pretty sure restaurants don't work based on "sections."

 

[alkemyst]

Alky, you've actually been dead on so far in this thread. ++

Thx, it really pisses me off when people especially poor fucks think being served is their right.

I didn't always eat out and party so much since I was broke for a good 10 years of my life, but when I did I tipped well. If I has a clusterfuck like a server being rude then I got the manager and just tipped the next server. I have left no tip, but that was only when I never got my check and no other server would help. I had waited 15+ mins in those cases. To me only my server going AWOL or insulting me deserves no tip, but I will always get the management involved in those cases.

 

[alkemyst]

I'm pretty sure restaurants don't work based on "sections."

So a restaurant with 50+ tables just randomly assigns a waitress to them?

 

[Nebor]

So a restaurant with 50+ tables just randomly assigns a waitress to them?

:biggrin:

 

[slag]

why should the looks of the waitress matter? unless its hooters i don't get it.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2198156

 

[NetWareHead]

I'm pretty sure restaurants don't work based on "sections."

Alot of restaurants do work based on "sections". We sometimes do get requests for a specific waitress/waiter and seat the customer in that server's section.

 

[amdhunter]

3% is good enough

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I'm pretty sure restaurants don't work based on "sections."

I'm sorry that you've never worked at a restaurant, but in fact they DO work based on sections.

 

[randomrogue]

I tip based on the service. 20% is for exceptional service and someone who really knows what they're doing. I am one of those to also go up their manager and tell them how good they are. 15% is for good service. 10% is for service. Bad service gets a penny so that they know I didn't stiff them. Exceptionally bad service gets a penny in foreign currency. Like a Mexican centavo or a Russian kopek. I'll also tell their manager they were utter horse shit.

 

[n7]

I'm pretty sure restaurants don't work based on "sections."

Well, you'd be wrong.
I'm sure there are some that do not, but most do.

My friends and I drive waitresses nuts when we move to get a better view of TVs for the game or when other friends show up, forcing us to move to somewhere with a bigger tables or somewhere we can combine tables, etc.

I also have friends who work/have worked as servers/waitresses/etc. Sections most definitely are there.


As for tip, i usually do around 20% unless service was bad.

 

[Beev]

I use 15% as my "standard." If the service is good they routinely get 20%+, if it's terrible they get nothing. There is no in between really. If the service is bad then why should they get even a penny from me?

I've only ever tipped $0 twice in my life, and it was very warranted.

 

[alkemyst]

I'm sorry that you've never worked at a restaurant, but in fact they DO work based on sections.

I seriously don't understand how people here don't understand simple things and then call me a troll on the complicated ones.

Just thinking logically about a floor set, it makes sense to place certain waiters being responsible for certain tables.

Sure you can always stop another server to ask for assistance, but in many places they are required to relay the message to your real server for them to handle.

 

[waggy]

Alot of restaurants do work based on "sections". We sometimes do get requests for a specific waitress/waiter and seat the customer in that server's section.

heh i always asked for my wife's little sisters section. well before she went to college anyway.

it was fun annoying her and only giving her a buck tip! one time i had a bunch of 1 million dollar bills that a local car dealership had (advertisements but looked kinda real) and i left her one of those heh

My wife's older sister (shit she is such a loser) has always worked as a waitress. i would go and leave her a buck tip and she would get pissed! she would call and say i should have left 5-6 bucks lol

 

[bonkers325]

standard is double the tax, rounded to the nearest dollar. if the service is great, i round up to the nearest five.

 

[alkemyst]

I tip based on the service. 20% is for exceptional service and someone who really knows what they're doing. I am one of those to also go up their manager and tell them how good they are. 15% is for good service. 10% is for service. Bad service gets a penny so that they know I didn't stiff them. Exceptionally bad service gets a penny in foreign currency. Like a Mexican centavo or a Russian kopek. I'll also tell their manager they were utter horse shit.

wow...talking to the manager and carrying foreign currency to get your points across.

You nicknamed the "pennyman" at those places?

Someone's has got to really be a star for me to go find the manager to talk them up. I will find the manager if they really screwed the pooch though...

 

[rivan]

^^^This, except I've never worked for tips. 20% is pretty much my cap for food, but will go higher for a bar tab. I'll deduct from that for bad service, but you have to be a real fuckup to piss me off. I'm not picky, and as long as good faith effort is being produced, I'm happy.

That's totally backwards, in my view. Drinks typically take so much less effort to serve than food.

15-20% is my standard; I tend to round up to even amounts. I'll tip far higher on smaller tabs - one diner I go to I usually end up with a tab around $4 for a full breakfast and I'll tip 100% or more if I'm there for a while and my coffee is never empty.

 

[DaTT]

I have never worked in the food industry, I just don't really have the patience for some people.

As far as tipping goes, I tip solely on service. Starts in the 15% range and goes up or down from there. I'm not a "big" tipper, and probably never will be.

Tipping is optional, otherwise you wouldn't have the option to do so on your bill...unless of course the tip is already put into your bill, but then the customer is made aware of that.