is 1440 going to become a broadcast standard?

[shortylickens]

or will cable companies push straight to 4k?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Well, 1080P has yet to become a broadcast standard, so I would say, "not for quite some time".

And 4K Blu-Ray just came out what, a year or possibly two ago? That's also no-where near ready for broadcast signals.

Get a wired gigabit internet connection, then you can talk about watching 4K video being "broadcast".

 

[BarkingGhostar]

1440 Lines? LOL, that isn't anything related to broadcast anything except double 720. The funny thing is that the Japanese broadcast for HD before the USA even got off their butts was to capture in 1440x1080, which was 4:3 aspect. And considering the DVD is still being milked by the lower half of the cowsumer market and that anything above 1080P in practically non-existent on the radar for cowsumer sales I would say don't worry about it.

But I do not understand why the question is even being asked. I could see a benefit of a 65" 4K TV with 1080P PIP so that one could do some desktop on the PIP while watching something in the rest of the screen real estate.

 

[Ken g6]

They're going straight to 4k. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC_3.0

 

[Zeze]

rofl, they can't even push proper 1080p right now. It's been what, more than a decade, since HDTV reached mass market saturation?

Most OTA are crappy 720p / 1080i. Or proper 1080p has garbage bitrate.

They can't even give us a real Blu-ray quality 1080p, what are we even talking about 4K.

 

[Red Squirrel]

HD is barely standard, it's typically an extra you have to pay more for. So I don't see anything high becoming standard. I see 4k eventually will surface but it will be like HD where you have to pay extra for, and there will only be so many channels that offer it.

 

[sdifox]

rofl, they can't even push proper 1080p right now. It's been what, more than a decade, since HDTV reached mass market saturation?

Most OTA are crappy 720p / 1080i. Or proper 1080p has garbage bitrate.

They can't even give us a real Blu-ray quality 1080p, what are we even talking about 4K.

ATSC is either 720P or 1080i and some other sd resolutions. And OTA quality is pretty good. You are thinking cable/satellite/streaming.

 

[Anubis]

sure in the year 3000

 

[SKORPI0]

480p/DVD quality is still the most common ATSC standard here in the US. Cable TV/Satellite providers will milk the extra monthly fees you pay just to get HDTV (720p/1080p) as long as they can. Of course you can get a few free OTA channels in HD.
4K will take a while to be in broadcast/cable/satellite, but before that television networks will have to provide content perhaps beginning in sports (Super Bowl?) in a few cities. Quite a few 4K selections in Netflix/Amazon Prime, but you need fast internet/special boxes to get them.

First time I watched a HDTV broadcast via Comcast in July 2003 was a NBA game after I bought a 36" Samsung CRT, about 150 lbs. That was a wow moment to me, a big difference to the same game broadcast in a SD channel.

 

[Gryz]

The US is a third world country.

Maybe not for the 1%. Or even 10% of wealthiest people in your country. But for everyone else, many standards of living are below those in other developed countries. Your Internet-access is slower. Your food sucks. What you can watch on TV is crap (it's mostly advertisements and sponsored programs). And then the technical quality of your TV broadcasts suck too.

In my country we don't pay extra for HD quality. We did maybe a few years ago, but not anymore. half of the content is broadcasted in 1080p, maybe a third in 720p, and the last 1/6th is SD-quality. Sucks to be an American.

To answer the OP: 1440p is not a standard in TV land. They'll got straight to 4K.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

480p/DVD quality is still the most common ATSC standard here in the US. Cable TV/Satellite providers will milk the extra monthly fees you pay just to get HDTV (720p/1080p) as long as they can. Of course you can get a few free OTA channels in HD.
4K will take a while to be in broadcast/cable/satellite, but before that television networks will have to provide content perhaps beginning in sports (Super Bowl?) in a few cities. Quite a few 4K selections in Netflix/Amazon Prime, but you need fast internet/special boxes to get them.

First time I watched a HDTV broadcast via Comcast in July 2003 was a NBA game after I bought a 36" Samsung CRT, about 150 lbs. That was a wow moment to me, a big difference to the same game broadcast in a SD channel.

Can I get some of whatever it is you are smoking?

 

[SKORPI0]

Can I get some of whatever it is you are smoking?

I should have said most people in The USA still view broadcast TV in SD, not in HD.

From Oct 2012.
http://www.tvpredictions.com/nielsen101812.htm

Nielsen says that in May 2012, 61 percent of all primetime viewing was done on a high-def set. But only 29 percent of English-language broadcast prime viewing and 25 percent of cable prime viewing was done in 'True HD' -- meaning the viewer watched HD via a set-top box or tuner that can display high-def signals.

The remainder of the viewing done on those HDTVs -- more than half of the overall viewing -- was of standard-definition signals. In other words, people may have HDTVs, but a majority of them have not taken the time to connect them to devices that can display real HD programming.

 

[Anubis]

im pretty sure thats still true. and at best its 50/50 5 years later

and yes DVD sales are higher than BR sales

 

[KMFJD]

The US is a third world country.

Maybe not for the 1%. Or even 10% of wealthiest people in your country. But for everyone else, many standards of living are below those in other developed countries. Your Internet-access is slower. Your food sucks. What you can watch on TV is crap (it's mostly advertisements and sponsored programs). And then the technical quality of your TV broadcasts suck too.

In my country we don't pay extra for HD quality. We did maybe a few years ago, but not anymore. half of the content is broadcasted in 1080p, maybe a third in 720p, and the last 1/6th is SD-quality. Sucks to be an American.

To answer the OP: 1440p is not a standard in TV land. They'll got straight to 4K.

 

[pmv]

The US is a third world country.

Maybe not for the 1%. Or even 10% of wealthiest people in your country. But for everyone else, many standards of living are below those in other developed countries. Your Internet-access is slower. Your food sucks. What you can watch on TV is crap (it's mostly advertisements and sponsored programs). And then the technical quality of your TV broadcasts suck too.

In my country we don't pay extra for HD quality. We did maybe a few years ago, but not anymore. half of the content is broadcasted in 1080p, maybe a third in 720p, and the last 1/6th is SD-quality. Sucks to be an American.

To answer the OP: 1440p is not a standard in TV land. They'll got straight to 4K.

Dunno about anything else, but

(a) US TV content is much, much, less crap than it used to be. It seems to have improved in leaps-and-bounds to the point where it's actually really good, seen from here in the UK anyway (though it does seem to be stuffed full of British actors doing American accents of hugely variable quality).

(b) your banks are rubbish

Oh, and I don't get why people care so much about number of pixels anyway. Once beyond a certain minimum, the quality of the program-making is far more important than the image quality.

 

[phreaqe]

Dunno about anything else, but

(a) US TV content is much, much, less crap than it used to be. It seems to have improved in leaps-and-bounds to the point where it's actually really good, seen from here in the UK anyway (though it does seem to be stuffed full of British actors doing American accents of hugely variable quality).

(b) your banks are rubbish

Oh, and I don't get why people care so much about number of pixels anyway. Once beyond a certain minimum, the quality of the program-making is far more important than the image quality.

Sports! I could not care less about a 4K sitcom or buddy cop drama, but NFL in 4K 60Hz would be awesome. highly doubt it will happen anytime soon, but i would upgrade to a new tv if i could get sports in 4K.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Sports! I could not care less about a 4K sitcom or buddy cop drama, but NFL in 4K 60Hz would be awesome. highly doubt it will happen anytime soon, but i would upgrade to a new tv if i could get sports in 4K.

I don't know what it is about football, I'm not a sports fan, but it does look awesome on a high quality TV. When I first got my HDTV the first thing I looked for is to see if a football game was on.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

I should have said most people in The USA still view broadcast TV in SD, not in HD.

From Oct 2012.
http://www.tvpredictions.com/nielsen101812.htm

You quotes a questionable, IMO, source that was a half decade old. It was an opinion piece to a Nielsen report.

First, ATSC is for broadcast, over the air. Bound systems like cable and satellite systems are not required to follow this. And unless the broadcasters are sending 480P/DVD quality on an HD carrier channel over the air--not denying it doesn't happen--and the majority are watching under that condition then I doubt that is the case at hand. And ti further suggest it is a standard is dubious at best ... again, IMO.

 

[Sonikku]

I remember when I got a USED Panasonic DVD player back in 2000 for $200. Friend would come over and be like, WTF it's so clear! Then about a year later he was like, "Yeah well now I have that too in my Playstation 2!" We hooked it up to the same tv and the quality was shit. Well, still far better than VHS mind you. But the difference in quality between the two players was evident.

I remember working all summer inbetween college semesters to get an Infocus X1 projector for $900, a kings sum at the time. It's 800x600 res was a joke compared to today, but I'll be damned if we didn't spend a lot of time in the dorms playing F Zero GX in widescreen and progressive scan on a 280" "screen" on the wall in the basement. I had to order special cables direct through Nintendo just to enable all the stuff. This was when gaming for most in the dorms consisted of playing Playstation 2 in 4x3 480i on some shitty curve screen shaped CRT.

Ah, the good old days.

These days? "It's not even in 1080p!!!!"