HomerJS

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Irony

I watched the news while GWB was kissing the ass of Muhammed Ali.
If it was the time when Ali was protesting the war and refused to serve
it would have been GWB and the Republicans putting him in jail. He would have
been called a communist and a traitor.

Go figure:confused:
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: HomerJS
Irony

I watched the news while GWB was kissing the ass of Muhammed Ali.
If it was the time when Ali was protesting the war and refused to serve
it would have been GWB and the Republicans putting him in jail. He would have
been called a communist and a traitor.

Go figure:confused:

How many people who are against the war have the republicans and GWB put in jail?
 

yankeesfan

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I saw Harry Truman telling the military to drop a nuclear bomb. If he was alive now, he wouldn't be singing that tune.

Go figure:confused:
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Irony

I watched the news while GWB was kissing the ass of Muhammed Ali.
If it was the time when Ali was protesting the war and refused to serve
it would have been GWB and the Republicans putting him in jail. He would have
been called a communist and a traitor.

Go figure:confused:

How many people who are against the war have the republicans and GWB put in jail?
How many people have refused to be inducted into the Army by way of draft to fight this ill conceived war?
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Irony

I watched the news while GWB was kissing the ass of Muhammed Ali.
If it was the time when Ali was protesting the war and refused to serve
it would have been GWB and the Republicans putting him in jail. He would have
been called a communist and a traitor.

Go figure:confused:

How many people who are against the war have the republicans and GWB put in jail?
How many people have refused to be inducted into the Army by way of draft to fight this ill conceived war?


None, because we dont have a draft, like I was saying "How many have they thrown into jail"?

 

mOeeOm

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Irony

I watched the news while GWB was kissing the ass of Muhammed Ali.
If it was the time when Ali was protesting the war and refused to serve
it would have been GWB and the Republicans putting him in jail. He would have
been called a communist and a traitor.

Go figure:confused:

How many people who are against the war have the republicans and GWB put in jail?
How many people have refused to be inducted into the Army by way of draft to fight this ill conceived war?


None, because we dont have a draft, like I was saying "How many have they thrown into jail"?

42.
 

yankeesfan

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Originally posted by: HomerJS
Irony

I watched the news while GWB was kissing the ass of Muhammed Ali.
If it was the time when Ali was protesting the war and refused to serve
it would have been GWB and the Republicans putting him in jail. He would have
been called a communist and a traitor.

Go figure:confused:

I'm a little confused. Which president began US involvement in Vietnam? What was his political affiliation?
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
How many people have refused to be inducted into the Army by way of draft to fight this ill conceived war?

You must be living in another country, because the USA doesn't have a draft.

And your obfuscation attempt is duly noted.

 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: yankeesfan

I'm a little confused. Which president began US involvement in Vietnam? What was his political affiliation?

The correct answer is Dwight D. Eisenhower, Republican - 1953 - 1961

Background

<CLIP>

January 20, 1953 - Dwight D. Eisenhower, former five-star Army general and Allied commander in Europe during World War II, is inaugurated as the 34th U.S. President.

During his term, Eisenhower will greatly increase U.S. military aid to the French in Vietnam to prevent a Communist victory. U.S. military advisors will continue to accompany American supplies sent to Vietnam. To justify America's financial commitment, Eisenhower will cite a 'Domino Theory' in which a Communist victory in Vietnam would result in surrounding countries falling one after another like a "falling row of dominoes." The Domino Theory will be used by a succession of Presidents and their advisors to justify ever-deepening U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

March 5, 1953 - Soviet leader Josef Stalin dies. The outspoken Nikita Khrushchev succeeds him.

July 27, 1953 - The Korean War ends as an armistice is signed dividing the country at the 38th parallel into Communist North and Democratic South. The armistice is seen by many in the international community as a potential model for resolving the ongoing conflict in Vietnam.

November 20, 1953 - The French under their new commander Gen. Henri Navarre begin Operation Castor, the construction of a series of entrenched outposts protecting a small air base in the isolated jungle valley at Dien Bien Phu in northwest Vietnam.

Gen. Giap immediately begins massing Viet Minh troops and artillery in the area, sensing the potential for a decisive blow against the French. Giap's troops manually drag 200 heavy howitzers up rugged mountain sides to target the French air base. The French, aware of Giap's intentions, mass their own troops and artillery, preparing for a showdown, but have grossly underestimated Giap's strength.

1954

March 13, 1954 - Outnumbering the French nearly five-to-one, 50,000 Viet Minh under Gen. Giap begin their assault against the fortified hills protecting the Dien Bien Phu air base.

Giap's artillery pounds the French and shuts down the only runway, thus forcing the French to rely on risky parachute drops for re-supply. Giap's troops then take out their shovels and begin construction of a maze of tunnels and trenches, slowly inching their way toward the main French position and surrounding it.

March 30-May 1 - The siege at Dien Bien Phu occurs as nearly 10,000 French soldiers are trapped by 45,000 Viet Minh. French troops soon run out of fresh water and medical supplies.

The French urgently appeal to Washington for help. The U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff now consider three possible military options: sending American combat troops to the rescue; a massive conventional air strike by B-29 bombers; the use of tactical atomic weapons.

President Eisenhower dismisses the conventional air raid and the nuclear option after getting a strong negative response to such actions from America's chief ally, Britain. Eisenhower also decides against sending U.S. ground troops to rescue the French, citing the likelihood of high casualty rates in the jungles around Dien Bien Phu. No action is taken.

----------- Change in US Leadership --------------

January 20, 1961- John Fitzgerald Kennedy is inaugurated as the 35th U.S. President and declares "...we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to insure the survival and the success of liberty." Privately, outgoing President Eisenhower tells him "I think you're going to have to send troops..." to Southeast Asia.

The youthful Kennedy administration is inexperienced in matters regarding Southeast Asia. Kennedy's Secretary of Defense, 44-year-old Robert McNamara, along with civilian planners recruited from the academic community, will play a crucial role in deciding White House strategy for Vietnam over the next several years. Under their leadership, the United States will wage a limited war to force a political settlement.

However, the U.S. will be opposed by an enemy dedicated to total military victory "...whatever the sacrifices, however long the struggle...until Vietnam is fully independent and reunified," as stated by Ho Chi Minh.

May 1961 - Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson visits President Diem in South Vietnam and hails the embattled leader as the 'Winston Churchill of Asia.'

May 1961 - President Kennedy sends 400 American Green Beret 'Special Advisors' to South Vietnam to train South Vietnamese soldiers in methods of 'counter-insurgency' in the fight against Viet Cong guerrillas.

The role of the Green Berets soon expands to include the establishment of Civilian Irregular Defense Groups (CIDG) made up of fierce mountain men known as the Montagnards. These groups establish a series of fortified camps strung out along the mountains to thwart infiltration by North Vietnamese.

Fall - The conflict widens as 26,000 Viet Cong launch several successful attacks on South Vietnamese troops. Diem then requests more military aid from the Kennedy administration.

October 1961 - To get a first-hand look at the deteriorating military situation, top Kennedy aides, Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow, visit Vietnam. "If Vietnam goes, it will be exceedingly difficult to hold Southeast Asia," Taylor reports to the President and advises Kennedy to expand the number of U.S. military advisors and to send 8000 combat soldiers.

Defense Secretary McNamara and the Joint Chiefs of Staff recommend instead a massive show of force by sending six divisions (200,000 men) to Vietnam. However, the President decides against sending any combat troops.

October 24, 1961 - On the sixth anniversary of the Republic of South Vietnam, President Kennedy sends a letter to President Diem and pledges "the United States is determined to help Vietnam preserve its independence..."

President Kennedy then sends additional military advisors along with American helicopter units to transport and direct South Vietnamese troops in battle, thus involving Americans in combat operations. Kennedy justifies the expanding U.S. military role as a means "...to prevent a Communist takeover of Vietnam which is in accordance with a policy our government has followed since 1954." The number of military advisors sent by Kennedy will eventually surpass 16,000.

December 1961 - Viet Cong guerrillas now control much of the countryside in South Vietnam and frequently ambush South Vietnamese troops. The cost to America of maintaining South Vietnam's sagging 200,000 man army and managing the overall conflict in Vietnam rises to a million dollars per day.



 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: yankeesfan

I'm a little confused. Which president began US involvement in Vietnam? What was his political affiliation?

The correct answer is Dwight D. Eisenhower, Republican - 1953 - 1961

Background

<CLIP>

January 20, 1953 - Dwight D. Eisenhower, former five-star Army general and Allied commander in Europe during World War II, is inaugurated as the 34th U.S. President.

During his term, Eisenhower will greatly increase U.S. military aid to the French in Vietnam to prevent a Communist victory. U.S. military advisors will continue to accompany American supplies sent to Vietnam. To justify America's financial commitment, Eisenhower will cite a 'Domino Theory' in which a Communist victory in Vietnam would result in surrounding countries falling one after another like a "falling row of dominoes." The Domino Theory will be used by a succession of Presidents and their advisors to justify ever-deepening U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

March 5, 1953 - Soviet leader Josef Stalin dies. The outspoken Nikita Khrushchev succeeds him.

July 27, 1953 - The Korean War ends as an armistice is signed dividing the country at the 38th parallel into Communist North and Democratic South. The armistice is seen by many in the international community as a potential model for resolving the ongoing conflict in Vietnam.

November 20, 1953 - The French under their new commander Gen. Henri Navarre begin Operation Castor, the construction of a series of entrenched outposts protecting a small air base in the isolated jungle valley at Dien Bien Phu in northwest Vietnam.

Gen. Giap immediately begins massing Viet Minh troops and artillery in the area, sensing the potential for a decisive blow against the French. Giap's troops manually drag 200 heavy howitzers up rugged mountain sides to target the French air base. The French, aware of Giap's intentions, mass their own troops and artillery, preparing for a showdown, but have grossly underestimated Giap's strength.

1954

March 13, 1954 - Outnumbering the French nearly five-to-one, 50,000 Viet Minh under Gen. Giap begin their assault against the fortified hills protecting the Dien Bien Phu air base.

Giap's artillery pounds the French and shuts down the only runway, thus forcing the French to rely on risky parachute drops for re-supply. Giap's troops then take out their shovels and begin construction of a maze of tunnels and trenches, slowly inching their way toward the main French position and surrounding it.

March 30-May 1 - The siege at Dien Bien Phu occurs as nearly 10,000 French soldiers are trapped by 45,000 Viet Minh. French troops soon run out of fresh water and medical supplies.

The French urgently appeal to Washington for help. The U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff now consider three possible military options: sending American combat troops to the rescue; a massive conventional air strike by B-29 bombers; the use of tactical atomic weapons.

President Eisenhower dismisses the conventional air raid and the nuclear option after getting a strong negative response to such actions from America's chief ally, Britain. Eisenhower also decides against sending U.S. ground troops to rescue the French, citing the likelihood of high casualty rates in the jungles around Dien Bien Phu. No action is taken.

----------- Change in US Leadership --------------

January 20, 1961- John Fitzgerald Kennedy is inaugurated as the 35th U.S. President and declares "...we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to insure the survival and the success of liberty." Privately, outgoing President Eisenhower tells him "I think you're going to have to send troops..." to Southeast Asia.

The youthful Kennedy administration is inexperienced in matters regarding Southeast Asia. Kennedy's Secretary of Defense, 44-year-old Robert McNamara, along with civilian planners recruited from the academic community, will play a crucial role in deciding White House strategy for Vietnam over the next several years. Under their leadership, the United States will wage a limited war to force a political settlement.

However, the U.S. will be opposed by an enemy dedicated to total military victory "...whatever the sacrifices, however long the struggle...until Vietnam is fully independent and reunified," as stated by Ho Chi Minh.

May 1961 - Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson visits President Diem in South Vietnam and hails the embattled leader as the 'Winston Churchill of Asia.'

May 1961 - President Kennedy sends 400 American Green Beret 'Special Advisors' to South Vietnam to train South Vietnamese soldiers in methods of 'counter-insurgency' in the fight against Viet Cong guerrillas.

The role of the Green Berets soon expands to include the establishment of Civilian Irregular Defense Groups (CIDG) made up of fierce mountain men known as the Montagnards. These groups establish a series of fortified camps strung out along the mountains to thwart infiltration by North Vietnamese.

Fall - The conflict widens as 26,000 Viet Cong launch several successful attacks on South Vietnamese troops. Diem then requests more military aid from the Kennedy administration.

October 1961 - To get a first-hand look at the deteriorating military situation, top Kennedy aides, Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow, visit Vietnam. "If Vietnam goes, it will be exceedingly difficult to hold Southeast Asia," Taylor reports to the President and advises Kennedy to expand the number of U.S. military advisors and to send 8000 combat soldiers.

Defense Secretary McNamara and the Joint Chiefs of Staff recommend instead a massive show of force by sending six divisions (200,000 men) to Vietnam. However, the President decides against sending any combat troops.

October 24, 1961 - On the sixth anniversary of the Republic of South Vietnam, President Kennedy sends a letter to President Diem and pledges "the United States is determined to help Vietnam preserve its independence..."

President Kennedy then sends additional military advisors along with American helicopter units to transport and direct South Vietnamese troops in battle, thus involving Americans in combat operations. Kennedy justifies the expanding U.S. military role as a means "...to prevent a Communist takeover of Vietnam which is in accordance with a policy our government has followed since 1954." The number of military advisors sent by Kennedy will eventually surpass 16,000.

December 1961 - Viet Cong guerrillas now control much of the countryside in South Vietnam and frequently ambush South Vietnamese troops. The cost to America of maintaining South Vietnam's sagging 200,000 man army and managing the overall conflict in Vietnam rises to a million dollars per day.

Now that is what I call a stretch with a lot of wishful thinking lmao



 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
How many people have refused to be inducted into the Army by way of draft to fight this ill conceived war?

You must be living in another country, because the USA doesn't have a draft.

.
You catch on fast:roll:
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Genx87

Now that is what I call a stretch with a lot of wishful thinking lmao

What do you mean by that remark ?

Are you still so damn dense that you don't even know anything about American History and the involvement of the US in the Vietnam War.

These are FACTS - as recorded in history
You have so much to learn, but apparently do not have that capability.

<CLIP>

Eisenhower made vigorous efforts to wage the Cold War. He placed new emphasis on nuclear strength, which was popularly known as massive retaliation, to prevent the outbreak of war. He also frequently authorized the Central Intelligence Agency to undertake covert actions -- secret interventions to overthrow unfriendly governments or protect reliable anti-Communist leaders whose power was threatened. The CIA helped topple the governments of Iran in 1953 and Guatemala in 1954, but it suffered an embarrassing failure in 1958 when it intervened in Indonesia. Eisenhower avoided war in Indochina in 1954 when he failed to authorize an air strike to rescue French troops at the crucial battle of Dienbienphu. Yet after the French granted independence to the nations of Indochina -- Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam -- Eisenhower used U.S. power and prestige to help create a non-Communist government in South Vietnam, an action that had disastrous long-term consequences. During his last years in office, Eisenhower also ?waged peace,? hoping to improve U.S.-Soviet relations and negotiate a treaty banning nuclear testing in the air and seas. But the Soviet downing of a U.S. reconnaissance plane -- the U-2 incident of May 1, 1960 -- ended any hope for a treaty before Eisenhower left office.

 

yankeesfan

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Genx87

Now that is what I call a stretch with a lot of wishful thinking lmao

What do you mean by that remark ?

Are you still so damn dense that you don't even know anything about American History and the involvement of the US in the Vietnam War.

These are FACTS - as recorded in history
You have so much to learn, but apparently do not have that capability.

<CLIP>

Eisenhower made vigorous efforts to wage the Cold War. He placed new emphasis on nuclear strength, which was popularly known as massive retaliation, to prevent the outbreak of war. He also frequently authorized the Central Intelligence Agency to undertake covert actions -- secret interventions to overthrow unfriendly governments or protect reliable anti-Communist leaders whose power was threatened. The CIA helped topple the governments of Iran in 1953 and Guatemala in 1954, but it suffered an embarrassing failure in 1958 when it intervened in Indonesia. Eisenhower avoided war in Indochina in 1954 when he failed to authorize an air strike to rescue French troops at the crucial battle of Dienbienphu. Yet after the French granted independence to the nations of Indochina -- Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam -- Eisenhower used U.S. power and prestige to help create a non-Communist government in South Vietnam, an action that had disastrous long-term consequences. During his last years in office, Eisenhower also ?waged peace,? hoping to improve U.S.-Soviet relations and negotiate a treaty banning nuclear testing in the air and seas. But the Soviet downing of a U.S. reconnaissance plane -- the U-2 incident of May 1, 1960 -- ended any hope for a treaty before Eisenhower left office.

His "stretch" remark was in regards to your conclusion. JFK began involvement with his sending of the military advisors.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Genx87

Now that is what I call a stretch with a lot of wishful thinking lmao

What do you mean by that remark ?

Are you still so damn dense that you don't even know anything about American History and the involvement of the US in the Vietnam War.

These are FACTS - as recorded in history.
You have so much to learn, but apparently do not have that capability.

Indeed

President Eisenhower dismisses the conventional air raid and the nuclear option after getting a strong negative response to such actions from America's chief ally, Britain. Eisenhower also decides against sending U.S. ground troops to rescue the French, citing the likelihood of high casualty rates in the jungles around Dien Bien Phu. No action is taken.

May 1961 - President Kennedy sends 400 American Green Beret 'Special Advisors' to South Vietnam to train South Vietnamese soldiers in methods of 'counter-insurgency' in the fight against Viet Cong guerrillas.

The role of the Green Berets soon expands to include the establishment of Civilian Irregular Defense Groups (CIDG) made up of fierce mountain men known as the Montagnards. These groups establish a series of fortified camps strung out along the mountains to thwart infiltration by North Vietnamese.

Anybody who honestly believes Dwight is the one who got us into Vietnam needs to purchase a clue for 200.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Genx87

Anybody who honestly believes Dwight is the one who got us into Vietnam needs to purchase a clue for 200.

I see where you're going - as a partisan hack, which you are, you are looking to pin this WAR which Eisenhower involved us in initially,
and which Kennedy inhereted, and which Johnson Escalated - based on false evidence and political misrepresentation by his advisors -
on the Democrats.
And what you fail to realize as well is that much of the old 'Southern Democrats' and their stale narrowminded veiws from those days
jumped the shark and became the Republicans of today, thanks to Nixon's 'Southern Strategy'.

THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED:
Which president began US involvement in Vietnam? What was his political affiliation?

The correct answer, no matter how much you try to spin it, no matter how deceitful you try to be, remains:

EISENHOWER, GOP

You can't deny it, you can't even learn from it. What happened is fact, and you can't revise that.

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Genx87

Anybody who honestly believes Dwight is the one who got us into Vietnam needs to purchase a clue for 200.

I see where you're going - as a partisan hack, which you are, you are looking to pin this WAR which Eisenhower involved us in initially,
and which Kennedy inhereted, and which Johnson Escalated - based on false evidence and political misrepresentation by his advisors -
on the Democrats.
And what you fail to realize as well is that much of the old 'Southern Democrats' and their stale narrowminded veiws from those days
jumped the shark and became the Republicans of today, thanks to Nixon's 'Southern Strategy'.

THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED:
Which president began US involvement in Vietnam? What was his political affiliation?

The correct answer, no matter how much you try to spin it, no matter how deceitful you try to be, remains:

EISENHOWER, GOP


Wrong again, clever, but continue, maybe if you tell a lie long enough people will start to believe it?

I think most people understood what the question was asking.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
How many people have refused to be inducted into the Army by way of draft to fight this ill conceived war?

You must be living in another country, because the USA doesn't have a draft.

And your obfuscation attempt is duly noted.

Something struck me about your recent post, so I did a search for threads that you posted in with the word "obfuscation" or "obfuscate", 22 threads. Now I didin't make sure it was you in everything thread, but I'd bet that it was mostly you. May I suggest a thesaurus? I know new fancy words are fun, but they can be overused.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
How many people have refused to be inducted into the Army by way of draft to fight this ill conceived war?

You must be living in another country, because the USA doesn't have a draft.

And your obfuscation attempt is duly noted.

Something struck me about your recent post, so I did a search for threads that you posted in with the word "obfuscation", 19 threads. May I suggest a thesaurus? I know new fancy words are fun, but they can be overused.

May I suggest a life, get out perhaps?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
How many people have refused to be inducted into the Army by way of draft to fight this ill conceived war?

You must be living in another country, because the USA doesn't have a draft.

And your obfuscation attempt is duly noted.

Something struck me about your recent post, so I did a search for threads that you posted in with the word "obfuscation", 19 threads. May I suggest a thesaurus? I know new fancy words are fun, but they can be overused.

May I suggest a life, get out perhaps?
Why would you defend Pabster when all he does is make your side look foolish? I have to ask the same of those on the left who defend McGowen and Steeplerot.

On another note, what difference does it make whether it was Kennedy or Ike who got us involved in Nam? It was a mistake supported by both parties at the time.

 

Genx87

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
How many people have refused to be inducted into the Army by way of draft to fight this ill conceived war?

You must be living in another country, because the USA doesn't have a draft.

And your obfuscation attempt is duly noted.

Something struck me about your recent post, so I did a search for threads that you posted in with the word "obfuscation", 19 threads. May I suggest a thesaurus? I know new fancy words are fun, but they can be overused.

May I suggest a life, get out perhaps?
Why would you defend Pabster when all he does is make your side look foolish? I have to ask the same of those on the left who defend McGowen and Steeplerot.

On another note, what difference does it make whether it was Kennedy or Ike who got us involved in Nam? It was a mistake supported by both parties at the time.

I wouldnt say that was a defense of Pabster but more of an attack on Todd33.


 

shira

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Originally posted by: HomerJS
Irony

I watched the news while GWB was kissing the ass of Muhammed Ali.

Go figure:confused:
And what's really sad is that however dazed and confused Ali looks on the outside, that's how dazed and confused Bush is inside. Ali is the MUCH brighter man.

 

arsbanned

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
How many people have refused to be inducted into the Army by way of draft to fight this ill conceived war?

You must be living in another country, because the USA doesn't have a draft.

And your obfuscation attempt is duly noted.

Something struck me about your recent post, so I did a search for threads that you posted in with the word "obfuscation", 19 threads. May I suggest a thesaurus? I know new fancy words are fun, but they can be overused.

May I suggest a life, get out perhaps?

As long as you're making the suggestion to Pabster there, smart guy.
 

Genx87

Lifer
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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
How many people have refused to be inducted into the Army by way of draft to fight this ill conceived war?

You must be living in another country, because the USA doesn't have a draft.

And your obfuscation attempt is duly noted.

Something struck me about your recent post, so I did a search for threads that you posted in with the word "obfuscation", 19 threads. May I suggest a thesaurus? I know new fancy words are fun, but they can be overused.

May I suggest a life, get out perhaps?

As long as you're making the suggestion to Pabster there, smart guy.

And what if I am not?
What you going to do, smartguy?