DrPizza
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The first one I thought of is FoxNews...
Hmmmm, maybe we should have a pool going for which news agency breaks this story first
The first one I thought of is FoxNews...
Hmmmm, maybe we should have a pool going for which news agency breaks this story first
McCarthy and Moriarty working together, how could anyone doubt their success? That Cornell chap, Pimentell should take a look at this and find it more than 100% efficient, as long as you don't count the energy expended to get the oil that fuels it. As long as the Army and Sherlock Holmes don't get wind of this, it should be a smashing success in Nigeria. They'll be on vacation from Ireland in Nigeria when they need the money sent, you see.
Speaker: Ancient archeological evidence indicates that Ireland was a much different place before the discovery of alcohol. Most experts believe it was something like this.
[flying cars whizzing]
Irishman 1: Gentlemen, today, we, Ireland's top scientists, have found a way to convert our entire population to pure energy!
Irishman 2: It's a glorious day.
Irishman 3: Hey! Michael McCloud's just invented a new kind of beverage in his basement.
Irishman 1: Hmmm, whiskey.
[Rowdy drunken yelling]
[flying cars whizzing]
Irishman 1: Gentlemen, today, we, Ireland's top scientists, have found a way to convert our entire population to pure energy!
Irishman 2: It's a glorious day.
Irishman 3: Hey! Michael McCloud's just invented a new kind of beverage in his basement.
Irishman 1: Hmmm, whiskey.
[Rowdy drunken yelling]
Sphexi
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Notice on their News page that everything was posted just yesterday, yet one thing had to do with Christmas. Someone check the WHOIS info to see how long the domain has been up
http://web.archive.org/web/20021209100220/http://www.steorn.com/index.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20021209100220/http://www.steorn.com/index.html
Originally posted by: Jeff7
From the site:
"The technology has a coefficient of performance greater than 100%."
Right. I'm quite sure it does.
"There is no identifiable environmental source of the energy (as might be witnessed by a cooling of ambient air temperature)."
So the energy just comes out of nowhere? Did they recreate the source of the Big Bang, right in the lab?
They don't really say anywhere what the technology actually is. The closest I could find is this:
"Steorn?s technology is based on the interaction of magnetic fields and allows the production of clean, free and constant energy."
They didn't even use the words "quantum" or "nanotechnology" or "spacetime" anywhere in there. Who are they fooling?
Their press release video features cartoonish animations of oil mining, and the impact on wildlife. That's the first 45 seconds.
The next 30 seconds talk about needing to replace traditional energy sources, and then they begin to talk about the techgnology that "can change everyone's life." And then they name a bunch of devices that happen to use energy - cars, phones, etc. Then there's an animation of a little green donut going round and round between 3 horseshoe magnets. One person likens it to being able to walk up a hill, and come back down, and wind up with more energy than when you started.
Apparently, it is so controversial an idea, that they need to validate it behind closed doors.
Nowhere in the video do they really say what the "technology" is, other than that little green donut animation. Gee, I wonder why no one is taking them seriously?
Or there's the outside chance that they are, indeed, sitting on something wonderful that completely sinks the laws of physics as we know them. But coming forward with such findings straight off is practical suicide - most wouldn't believe a damn bit of it, maybe 1 or 2 would choose to look at the research and may or may not believe it. It would take AGES for it to become accepted - too late for humanity, no doubt.
But openly defying science to take a closer look, and not telling them what they're looking at - that calls upon curiosity, the driving force of scientific progress - not logic based in a flawed model of the universe.
They're also calling upon engineers, which would fast-track the potential for implementation, if they are indeed out to do it.
Also, it's highly STUPID to come forward with something groundbreaking like this and just go "k, this is what it is and this is how it works" because patent law isn't universal. Before their first unit even went production, somewhere in Asia, someone else would be selling their millionth unit.
Jeff7
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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Jeff7
From the site:
"The technology has a coefficient of performance greater than 100%."
Right. I'm quite sure it does.
"There is no identifiable environmental source of the energy (as might be witnessed by a cooling of ambient air temperature)."
So the energy just comes out of nowhere? Did they recreate the source of the Big Bang, right in the lab?
They don't really say anywhere what the technology actually is. The closest I could find is this:
"Steorn?s technology is based on the interaction of magnetic fields and allows the production of clean, free and constant energy."
They didn't even use the words "quantum" or "nanotechnology" or "spacetime" anywhere in there. Who are they fooling?
Their press release video features cartoonish animations of oil mining, and the impact on wildlife. That's the first 45 seconds.
The next 30 seconds talk about needing to replace traditional energy sources, and then they begin to talk about the techgnology that "can change everyone's life." And then they name a bunch of devices that happen to use energy - cars, phones, etc. Then there's an animation of a little green donut going round and round between 3 horseshoe magnets. One person likens it to being able to walk up a hill, and come back down, and wind up with more energy than when you started.
Apparently, it is so controversial an idea, that they need to validate it behind closed doors.
Nowhere in the video do they really say what the "technology" is, other than that little green donut animation. Gee, I wonder why no one is taking them seriously?
Or there's the outside chance that they are, indeed, sitting on something wonderful that completely sinks the laws of physics as we know them. But coming forward with such findings straight off is practical suicide - most wouldn't believe a damn bit of it, maybe 1 or 2 would choose to look at the research and may or may not believe it. It would take AGES for it to become accepted - too late for humanity, no doubt.
But openly defying science to take a closer look, and not telling them what they're looking at - that calls upon curiosity, the driving force of scientific progress - not logic based in a flawed model of the universe.
They're also calling upon engineers, which would fast-track the potential for implementation, if they are indeed out to do it.
Also, it's highly STUPID to come forward with something groundbreaking like this and just go "k, this is what it is and this is how it works" because patent law isn't universal. Before their first unit even went production, somewhere in Asia, someone else would be selling their millionth unit.
Then why go through public channels to get people to examine it? I imagine that there are more discrete methods of doing this. For example, I'm sure you don't find ads in the Classifieds section of a local newspaper: "Wanted: Hackers to work for Project Echelon. Must be willing to spy on domestic and international traffic. Secret responsibilities may include......" You'd generally want to go about that in a different manner.
I just don't think that setting up a sparse website with extremely obscure information is the way to gain credibility.
middlehead
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Check out Nanosolar. They will make solar energy cheap (less than $1/watt - down to $.50/Watt eventually).
I can't wait for their new plant to open.
Man, that guy is a good actor. I don't know he kept spitting out those strings of words with a straight face.
Bwaahaaaha! This is in the business section of a newspaper in India (the hindu). From the Agence France Presse
Yeah, but the solar panel will last for more than an hour.
(You're comparing price per watt hour to the solar panel's cost per watt it can produce. In other words a 100-watt solar panel would be $100)
Yeah, some panels (like the silicon crystal type) can last for up to 30 years. So, average the cost of a Watt over the entire life of the panel and you'll get the equivalent Watt/hour cost.
But yeah Nanosolar (check out their cool videos) uses an ink-based PV solution that can be printed onto a thin flexible paper backing via ink jet like processes. They say that they'll eventually be able to print onto strips up to 72" wide (I forget how long - very long though). I don't think that the efficiency is as high, but it is cheap. They've already done long term tests and the panels have passed. I think they've also sent out large quantities to a couple of electric utilities in CA for testing and they were very happy with them. Nanosolar just announced that they are going to be building the world's largest manufacturing plant in the Bay Area which will begin producing panels next year... I can't wait. I know there are also many other companies working on printable PV panels, so hopefully this is the tip of the iceberg, so to speak.
Anyway, sorry for the hijack, but I thought it was relavent to the topic.
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