Iraqis loot the Central Museum... Update: some of the Bush administration folks think it is our fault!

[adlep]

I blame the Americans, since there was an American archeologist who was working in Iraq for 30 years on a public radio, warning against such a possibility three weeks ago....
It seems that the US has no clue what to do next, after the conquest. There is no clear plan for government, and the US troops do not give a sh*t about law and order.
Well, now it is too late. Millions odf priceless artifacts which belong to the people of Earht actually are gone, thanks to the fact theat the US commanders are fuck*ng clueless ignorants...
Democracy in Iraq?
P.S. I am just angry because US troops should have protected this place....

Edit: Update

 

[adlep]

Story

Someone should be held responsible for that. It is a darn shame...

Surveying the littered glass wreckage of display cases and pottery shards at the Iraqi National Museum on Saturday, deputy director Nabhal Amin wept and told Reuters: "They have looted or destroyed 170,000 items of antiquity dating back thousands of years...They were worth billions of dollars."

"The Americans were supposed to protect the museum. If they had just one tank and two soldiers nothing like this would have happened," she said. "I hold the American troops responsible for what happened to this museum."

Democracy in Iraq?
These people ARE NOT ready for it yet....

 

[mastertech01]

Yes and I suppose if we HAD enough troops on the ground to adequately protect every item of interest people would be whining about the blatant occupation of Arab lands as well.

We simply do not have enough resources to balance out a police force AND a military force.

Be patient, it isnt going to be heaven on earth over night.

 

[Grey]

My god people stop complaining, a nations government was just gutted from the body. The US has what 100,000 troops in Iraq protecting several cities. Considering each city probably had hundreds of thousands of workers each they are understadably understaffed!

Give it some time

 

[adlep]

No...
Not every resource. Not even hospitals, or banks...
But this museum is the only one in the world. It should be a top priority of the US troops to protect this site. Once again, it would take no more than a platoon of soldiers. Now they will never be able to recover all of the artifacts.
This is a darn shame, we just let them destroy a world hertiage...

 

[adlep]

My god people stop complaining, a nations government was just gutted from the body. The US has what 100,000 troops in Iraq protecting several cities. Considering each city probably had hundreds of thousands of workers each they are understadably understaffed!

It is too late now, it has been done, don't you see?
The museum (only one in the world) is already destoyed. If there is only one site we should protect in Iraq that was the site...
And only 10, 20 soldiers and maybe one tank would do...
Please read about it first, google it out or something, the you would know...
I am talking about the first civilization

 

[Grey]

If its so valued in the world, why didn't the Iraqi's respect their own heritage and NOT loot it? This isn't entirely the Americans fault.

 

[Jmman]

Originally posted by: adlep
Story

Someone should be held responsible for that. It is a darn shame...

Surveying the littered glass wreckage of display cases and pottery shards at the Iraqi National Museum on Saturday, deputy director Nabhal Amin wept and told Reuters: "They have looted or destroyed 170,000 items of antiquity dating back thousands of years...They were worth billions of dollars."

"The Americans were supposed to protect the museum. If they had just one tank and two soldiers nothing like this would have happened," she said. "I hold the American troops responsible for what happened to this museum."

Democracy in Iraq?
These people ARE NOT ready for it yet....

You my friend are an ignoramus. How generous of you to make that decison for someone else. :|

 

[blade]

This isn't entirely the Americans fault.

It sure the heck is. Everything bad that happens is always our fault while anything good is always done by another country.

We made the Iraqis loot that museum and the hospitals too.



/sarcasm

why didn't the Iraqi's respect their own heritage and NOT loot it?

?

 

[adlep]

You my friend are an ignoramus. How generous of you to make that decison for someone else.

I wish I am wrong my friend.
But I will save your and my qoutes. We will talk in a year.
And I am not ignorant person. You have no right to call me names.

 

[her209]

Why are you guy complaining? Those artifacts belong to the Iraqi people, just like the oil.

 

[adlep]

Why are you guy complaining? Those artifacts belong to the Iraqi people, just like the oil.

No, it is a world's hertage, these artifacts belong to the entire planet..
Iraq was the home and a birthplace of the first human civilization 5000 years ago...

Edit: All it would take to protect it is just few troops, a tank, and some responsibility...

 

[adlep]

This is pointelss..
I guess you guys dont care at all...
Enjoy the victory....

 

[blade]

I guess you guys dont care at all...

We do care.

It's just some of us are a plain sick of how some always blame Americans when something goes wrong. What about all the good we did there and always do in helping others? Seems it's always the bad many prefer to focus on, rarely about anything positive we do. It gets old.


Help is being worked on now to provide security in Iraq. Too late for some things like that museum, unfortunately. But we didn't make them loot their museum. We were unprepared for that.

 

[Speedy3D!]

Originally posted by: adlep
This is pointelss..
I guess you guys dont care at all...
Enjoy the victory....

Excuse me, but rather than blame the US for all that is wrong, why not blame the Iraqis who are stealing from it?

I don't even want to hear that it is our fault because we destroyed their government. Whether or not they have a government does not give them the right to loot, nor should it be our job to play police.

If somebody in the US murders another man or steals from a bank, by your logic it must be the government's fault because they failed to prevent it.

I'm sorry, but people like you just "don't get it."

 

[Napalm]

The original poster is correct. Now that the U.S. and Britain have bombed the crap out of Iraq and destroyed the fabric that maintained the peace (however corrupt), it is their duty under the Geneva Conventions to protect the peace and I would add the heritage of the country. The fact that they did not forsee this is criminal.

N

 

[jasonroehm]

Excuse me, but rather than blame the US for all that is wrong, why not blame the Iraqis who are stealing from it?

I don't even want to hear that it is our fault because we destroyed their government. Whether or not they have a government does not give them the right to loot, nor should it be our job to play police.

If somebody in the US murders another man or steals from a bank, by your logic it must be the government's fault because they failed to prevent it.

I'm sorry, but people like you just "don't get it."

Amen.

 

[adlep]

Well, we should be prepared for that, because, once again, it was very easy to predict. Three weeks ago, this archeologist who llived in Iraq for 20 years said that the looting will be the biggest problem.
We had three weeks to prepare and we didnt do it....
And once again, this is one of the primary places which should be secured, it is/was as important as the presidential palaces....
Well, on the other hand wy do they take all that stuff from hospitals and museums?
(Is this society ready for democracy????, I hope yes...but for now it doesnt look like it, and I am not an ignorant by saying this)

 

[fastz28]

These people are poor, thus the looting. So, why don't "we", later on, sell their oil, then offer the money to buy back the treasures?

 

[Tripleshot]

This problem falls directly on the head of Saddam. If he had not invaded his neighbors,killed the kurds,ignored UN resolutions, oppressed his people he should have been protecting, WAR would never have happened. Looting would not have been thought of and law and order would have been in place.

When the public of Iraq got to see how their so called leader raped the people and lived high on the hog, the reaction is not one ounce different from what anyone of us would do in the same situation. If the countries desirewas to educate the people, then an educated citizenry may not have reacted the way these anarchists have. But that isn't reality, is it?

Quit bashing this administration. This administration had the guts to go to Iraq and do the right thing, GIVE FREEDOM TO THE IRAQI"S and GET RID OF SADDAM AND HIS REGIME! They accomplished that goal in a record 3 weeks. It will take 3 more weeks to get a police force installed and law and order back in place. Those pieces of history will surface again, for a price. The looters need money. They have looted to barter. There is no economy in Iraq now. Money is worthless. Take a leson from this.This could happen here to if we don't get oyur economy back on track. That is what has been ignored since this war started. But that is for another thread in OT or something, not here.

 

[43st]

I totally agree. It's the responsibility of the invading army to keep the citizens safe. One can't invade a country, destroy all law enforcement devices, and them blame the citizens for the lack of law.

Thankfully the US doesn't answer to any world court so we should be safe to do what we feel is right.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: fastz28
These people are poor, thus the looting. So, why don't "we", later on, sell their oil, then offer the money to buy back the treasures?

That's ridiculous.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: adlep
I blame the Americans, since there was an American archeologist who was working in Iraq for 30 years on a public radio, warning against such a possibility three weeks ago....
It seems that the US has no clue what to do next, after the conquest. There is no clear plan for government, and the US troops do not give a sh*t about law and order.
Well, now it is too late. Millions odf priceless artifacts which belong to the people of Earht actually are gone, thanks to the fact theat the US commanders are fuck*ng clueless ignorants...
Democracy in Iraq?
P.S. I am just angry because US troops should have protected this place....

Just like I"m sure you blame the Americans for Saddam hiding troops and weapons in hospitals, schools, ancient mosques, even globally designated historical sites withing Iraq. I'm sure he respected the museum though.....

If Saddam had still been in power at least those people would have been tortured and executed, right?

Why can't some people understand taking responsibility for their actions? Freedom is a great thing, I have the freedom right now to go over to my neighboors house and blow his face off with my shotgun, are you going to blame the US government for giving me this freedom or me for my actions?

 

[freakflag]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: adlep
I blame the Americans, since there was an American archeologist who was working in Iraq for 30 years on a public radio, warning against such a possibility three weeks ago....
It seems that the US has no clue what to do next, after the conquest. There is no clear plan for government, and the US troops do not give a sh*t about law and order.
Well, now it is too late. Millions odf priceless artifacts which belong to the people of Earht actually are gone, thanks to the fact theat the US commanders are fuck*ng clueless ignorants...
Democracy in Iraq?
P.S. I am just angry because US troops should have protected this place....

Just like I"m sure you blame the Americans for Saddam hiding troops and weapons in hospitals, schools, ancient mosques, even globally designated historical sites withing Iraq. I'm sure he respected the museum though.....

If Saddam had still been in power at least those people would have been tortured and executed, right?

Why can't some people understand taking responsibility for their actions? Freedom is a great thing, I have the freedom right now to go over to my neighboors house and blow his face off with my shotgun, are you going to blame the US government for giving me this freedom or me for my actions?

I've met some of your neighbors...I wouldn't blame you.

 

[fastz28]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: fastz28
These people are poor, thus the looting. So, why don't "we", later on, sell their oil, then offer the money to buy back the treasures?

That's ridiculous.

How so? You got any better ideas on how to retrieve the treasures back to the mesuems?